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From the photographer of the critically acclaimed 108 Rock Star Guitars comes a new collection of beautifully shot guitar photos, documenting the legendary instruments of B.B. King, Kurt Cobain, St. Vincent, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix and more than one hundred and fifty legendary rock icons. Armed with a macro lens, an incredible eye for detail, and a truly inspiring vision, Johnson and her guitar art are taking the world of fine art photography on a rock and roll ride. Far from still life, Johnson’s work conjures the abstract yet also possesses a very sensual and ethereal aura, illustrating the intimate wear and details of each instrument featured.Johnson’s debut book, 108 Rock Star Guitars, received rave reviews and in Immortal Axes, she raises the bar even further, capturing the imagination of music fans everywhere. Each intimate photograph is accompanied by a touch of musical history, an anecdote or great personal storytelling moments, making this stunning book a must-have not only for guitar lovers but for every reader who wants to know more about their favorite guitarists and the instruments they cherish. Additional artists and bands include: Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley, Peter Frampton, Steve Hackett, Metallica, Black Sabbath, Jimmy Page, Albert Lee, Glen Campbell, Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Lita Ford, Susanna Hoffs, Eric Clapton, Keith Richards, Malcolm Young, Dave Grohl, Nancy Wilson, Michael Anthony and Suzi Quatro to name a few.  Lisa S. Johnson’s stunning photos and her body of work have led to collaborations with the Malibu Guitar Festival, Museum of Making Music, and Museum of Design Atlanta. She collaborated with former Editor-in-Chief of Guitar World magazine and author Brad Tolinski for Immortal Axes. Johnson lives in Las Vegas, Nevada with her partner and two boxer dogs. She is also an avid Kundalini yoga teacher on her instagram platform @Cosmic_108.

Connect with Lisa at www.108RockStarGuitars.com and on insta @cosmic_108

Brandon Handley 0:40
It is crucial dope. I’m on here today with Lisa s. Johnson. She is coming here to us by way of a guest you may or may not recall from the game here. with fresh Shaw, that’s how you and I connected Lisa and Lisa. She’s got a couple of really awesome books, guitar and books that she’s put on the winners on all about those two here in a second. And she also does a weekly Kundalini course on Instagram under cosmic 108. But this one should tell us a little bit about who you are. What made you feel a spiritual dove was is a place for you to be right now.

Lisa S Johnson 1:15
Well, hey, Brandon, thank you so much for having me on as a guest today. I really appreciate it. And it was really cool that we did meet through Paresh who I know through Kundalini Yoga, we went through Kundalini Yoga training together. And he’s also rock and rollers. So it was interesting that he and I really connected in class before we even know, we were both into rock and roll. So. So that’s how things weave together. And that brought me to you spiritual dope, which I love that name. Because it’s kind of telling of the times and connecting to the youth generation really, because to say spiritual dope, kind of, you know, get the younger person interested. And we can talk about things spirituality, and things that are going on in the world in more of a hipper way. So it’s really fun to take part in that. My background is that I come from a musical family in northern Canada, where I grew up until I was 23. And I was born in California, though, so I have my California roots until age seven, and then lived in Canada, then moved to Florida. And I ended up going to college for photography, which led me to a job for 10 years with the Eastman Kodak company. And I ended up living in Memphis, Tennessee, and going to the Unity Church. And my father growing up told me I was not allowed to date musicians. And so I he was a musician, so and still is. And so I was at the Unity Church picnic, and the guitar player from church asked me out on a date, and I accepted and we started dating. So I called my dad and said, Hey, Dad, I’m, I’m dating a musician. However, he is the guitar player at church, and he owns a vintage guitar store. And my dad being a guitar player said, Hey, if he ever gets in and gets a mandolin, I’ve always wanted one. And you know, he’s not a touring musician. So that doesn’t matter. You can you can date him. So that was the beginning of my photographing guitars, because my boyfriend then Hank said, I told him about this request of a vintage mandolin. And he got one in two weeks later, and I said, how much I want to buy that from my dad. And he said, You can’t afford it. But if you photograph some guitars, for me, I have to sell that I don’t want to sell, I’ll trade you for the mandolin. So that was it. And I photographed these amazing vintage guitars for him and I fell in love with my photography for the first time. So I really was drawn into photographing guitars in a spiritual way, because I was going to the Unity Church, which is a non denominational church and what attracted me too, it was that they would always read a passage out of Chicken Soup for the Soul, you know, Joseph Campbell, and, and, and they would relate it to a passage in the Bible. So it wasn’t you know, like this indoctrinated you know, where I grew up in the Catholic Church, you know, it was fun, at the end would always sing a song holding hands, the whole congregation, let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. And so that was the beginning of my spiritual journey. And at that point, I was probably 2425 Ah, you know, and of course, my spiritual journey did begin when I grew up, I started in the Catholic Church. By the age of 14, I already realized that God was within me, that I didn’t need to go to church to be with God. And that gave me a lot of peace. And I always felt God with me and I’ve always prayed. But then when I found the Unity Church, I actually because it was more of a spiritual feeling. And I they had a bookstore there and I my first spiritual books that I bought was Wayne Dyer, and Louise Hay and Shaco Wayne. And these books really and you know, the first really spiritual book that I read before that even at 18 was thinking go Grow Rich, by Napoleon Hill. And if you read Shakti, Wayne’s creative visualizations, basically, it’s the same concept. You know, you, you are what you think, you know, what you speak manifests into reality. And that was Napoleon Hill’s whole premise. You know, if you think you’re going to be negative and talk negative all the time, that’s what you’re going to attract. And if you talk positive, and think positive and and visualize your goal, then that’s what’s going to manifest. And so this is how I’ve lived my life and manifest in my life since I was 18 years old. So just to conclude, I, I went to college for photography, and I ended up moving to New York City. And I got this job with Kodak. So I was in New York, and then Memphis. And

I ended up shooting those guitars in Memphis. And then I got sent back to New York. And I thought, if I’m going to shoot guitars, I may as well shoot famous ones. So Les Paul played every Monday night at the Iridium room in Manhattan, and I started going down there, and I eventually met him and he let me photograph his guitar. So that was the first famous guitar I photographed. And then 12 years later, he ended up writing the foreword for my first book, 108 rock star guitars. And then I ended up in a car crash in between all this and my neck got jacked. After, after I moved to Las Vegas from New York City. And that led me to a chiropractor who told me that Vikram yoga would be really good for me. And so I started taking their chrome yoga classes became a victim yoga teacher, studied yoga philosophy, read Autobiography of a Yogi, and it totally changed my life. And then, almost 20 years later, I was introduced to Kundalini Yoga. Through the modern day priestess training that I started that I, I took, I’m a modern day priestess as well. And we did Kundalini Yoga every day. So that’s how I ended up in the Kundalini, cosmic 108 Saturday morning classes to share the yoga technology and the tools of yoga to help us previously, just in regular times, but now especially even more in these really trying times on the planet.

Brandon Handley 7:25
of the story, I love the journey that you know, I mean, first time, Ed, a musician, of course, is when the dad says no. Right? And that’s the that’s right. There’s your proven out of principle, right out of thinking Grow Rich, like whatever you focus on what manifests sure very. So you know, he’s focused on for you was what manifested for you. So he played a part in that. And that, you know, the journey towards photography and photographing these these guitars, right, and cars is going for it. Just saying this is this is what kind of sets my soul on fire, and looking for ways to make that happen. Exact so cool. Yeah. So thanks. Thanks for the background. Right. So what I like to start this off with is the idea that, hey, we’re all spiritual beings. Right? And that source speaks through us right now I sources speaking through you, to me, to somebody on the other end, that is listening to this podcast today. What is something what’s a message that can only be delivered through you to that person today?

Lisa S Johnson 8:38
Okay, well, I’m just going to go with what channels right through instantly, that’s where you got to go. And so mine is via channel, B channel. So ask your higher guides, or whatever God is for you, make me a channel of a higher will. This is how we received the messages from the universe and from our guides and angels, through our, our cosmic antenna, our auric field, which the ark line is a part of our bigger auric field. And so the ark line is the seventh body of consciousness that we have out of 10 light bodies of consciousness, the 3d body, the gross body, that’s only one body, we have seven additional. So the Arc Line is, is the seventh body. And it’s the way that we send and receive signals to each other, that can be sent even over vast spaces of time, you know, for one country or area or planet to another. And it’s important to keep your antenna clean and clear. If it’s dirty, it’s got a lot of static in there. You can’t send your signal and you can’t receive signals. So that means I’m not communicating effectively or I can’t receive others communications effectively. So this is one of the reasons why we do spiritual work meditation and movements. So that we can clean and clear all of our bodies, including that that radar antenna, the Arc Line. So that is how I would channel something that no one else could receive from any other place other than through me, because I’m sending it through my Arc Line through my channel to your listeners right now. And I have often asked my guys make me a channel of a higher will, so that I can hear and see the unseen.

Brandon Handley 10:32
What is Oh, I think that’s fantastic. open yourself up to be a channel to begin with, say, Make me your channel, allow me to be a channel. I’ve been trying to do this whole thing myself this entire time. What else kind of let it flow through me? What’s a way that we can clear tailor my sales of this? Boy, how do I clean my sale?

Lisa S Johnson 11:00
It’s easier than you think. I mean, people say I can’t meditate. Oh, I can never meditate. Okay, so yes, everyone can meditate. And everyone can clear their channel. And here’s how. First of all, you can sit and you have to make meditation, super simple and easy, especially in the beginning. And while you’re meditating, you’re cleaning your arclight. Okay, so this is the same answer for both things. So first of all, you sit and we you invoke you do an invocation to clear the space, stage yourself, you know, stage the room with Palo Santo or stage what happens. Then you do an invocation, bringing in your guides and teachers, and then you do movements. So for example, one way to clear your Arc Line, your antenna is inhaling and turning your head to the left, and exhale and turning your head to the right, because that’s cleaning and clearing the space right in front of your face and to the left into the right. And then if you tuck your chin into your chest, you rotate your head around a big neck circles. This is cleaning the Arc Line, you’re going in a circle and it’s clean exactly that area in your in your Arc Line in your auric fields. Then we use breathwork inclusively, you know a lot of deep inhaling, exhaling or rectifier pumping the belly and equal pumps. And this is distributing energy in the body and sending your Kundalini energy from the base of your spine, all the way up to the top of your crown chakra. So all of your chakras are getting a burst of energy as you’re pumping the belly in. So and then you quiet the mind you do the work, the movement opens the body and allows you to sit in meditation and be more calm. And still, even when you’re super calm. You can close your eyes, look into your third eye center, your sixth chakra, and that that stimulates activates your pineal gland, which is your your tool your gland for extrasensory perceptions, and how we can learn to connect and with our subtle body with using extrasensory perception so we can feel energy around us more we can hear what someone is saying without them actually saying it. And all of this clears your archive and your intent just to very quickly, you know, give you a summary of how you how you clear it. So it’s through breath movement, meditation.

Brandon Handley 13:29
That’s great. So you got a twofer there. Alright, you can do a little bit a little bit of both at the same time. One thing that definitely has been hugely impactful for me this past year has definitely been the breathwork. And it sounds like that’s a big part of Kundalini Yoga. We’re a couple that with Autobiography of a Yogi, right, is this Kundalini Yoga? associated? Specifically with like I was at the Southeast Asia foundation. Yeah. Through. You went through the priestess

Lisa S Johnson 14:05
training? I did. Yes. So, Yogi, paramahansa Yogananda. He was a Kriya. Yogi. So that’s what we do include aleni we do Kriya Yoga. And that means that we do yoga postures from the 84 Classic asanas that Austin as is of your means yoga posture, we do we pull from there. And on top of that, we also always use mantra, meditation mudras. We use our our throat or our throat. To every class, we incorporate these aspects. And this is called Kriya Yoga. So guys like guru Singh, who’s been a longtime kodaline Teacher, he also come through lineage of Yogananda, and so to why so I really kind of relate to him in that way. So we’re doing Kriya Yoga. But the thing about Kundalini that makes it more advanced is that it’s really teaching the science of yoga, and yoga as a technology as tools that we use for self healing. First, we heal the self, then we can heal others, and we heal others through our energetic field. So as we amplify and expand our electromagnetic frequency, through the movement, and the meditation and the breathwork, and all that, we’re expanding our electromagnetic field and our auric field gets bigger and brighter and stronger, and more radiant, and more attractive to other people. And it then it starts to just attract all the right people to and it spells all the negative stuff out. And then there’s no room for any negative anymore. So even when the worst shit is flying around this planet, right now, you can learn and use these tools to be able to stay calm, in the midst of this chaos that we’re in and send your light out in every direction. super big and super powerful. And when we sit and meditate, especially on full moons, and new moons, because these are the the doors of the portals of the planets when the planets line up when the Moon and the Sun and Earth are lining up. And they’re lining up with other stars that happen throughout the year. These create portals, we just had the big Lionsgate portal on August 8. And this is a time when energy frequency and vibration funnels into the planet and upward levels, our DNA and our our electromagnetic frequency and our ESP and our overall consciousness on the planet. So right now, we’re going through hell. But we’re going through hell to get to heaven. Because heavens on the way. And it’s on the way, and I know it is because I study the yugas. And that’s what Yogananda used to teach the yugas and his his teacher Shri you test guar. He’s the one who wrote the book, the science of yoga, and he speaks all about the yoga so we can get into that if you’d like it’s just one of my favorite topics.

Brandon Handley 17:18
Well, yeah, I mean, we absolutely get into that we have a lot. I love the concept. And I think I remember like, first of all, you know, Autobiography of a Yogi, what a great book write a really, really great book, fun to read. And so it was like being on that adventure with them as as he kind of goes through his life. And then I think he did talk about it. Did he talk about yoga technology, and there are not likely to finish it up with that.

Lisa S Johnson 17:47
Remember, you remember him specifically saying yoga as a technology? But I bet he did. Because you shriek test suar he saw I’m sure the technology because of these. The the chart of the yoga is that he created and I mean, they they knew the science of yoga. So

Brandon Handley 18:07
Oh, yeah, that’s, that’s not new to that. No, it’s not it’s not new to them. And by that, I mean, like, the whole Indian

Lisa S Johnson 18:16
culture, and just like how people are way more advanced than us. 100%

Brandon Handley 18:20
I mean, look, I mean, we’re, I mean, we’re like crawling, right? And in terms of like, our just general conscious capabilities. That’s my thing. Right? I just kind of where we are in terms of, of civilization like that. It’s really learn how to as you I think you talked a little bit about harnessing your mind right, and just really getting in there. So you also need to talk about these portals. I want to just hit on. I love Lionsgate, right. Just just I love Lionsgate portal, mostly because of the memes and the social media that come along with it because it’s very entertaining. But I think it also offers like, you know, through through the entertainment edutainment, right like it’s so opens that up to somebody even if they laugh at it or joka. Like it becomes a seed somewhere. Right. So, what tell us a little bit about more, right if I was about Lionsgate Okay, we’ll talk about that. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Lisa S Johnson 19:24
Well, there is a star named Sirius. I’m sure you’re aware of it most. Everybody knows about the star Sirius. It’s also called the dog star. And it is the brightest star in the sky. It’s the North Star. So the Sirius star in August from July 26 to August 12. The dog star begins to rise in the morning with our son. So there’s two suns in the sky. So you may have seen recently a lot of photos with two suns in the sky and people are going What’s up, there’s two sons. Well, this happens every year because the Sirius star is rising with the sun. So that is in alignment of Sirius that is supposedly a planet where the Syrians come from. And they that planet Sirius is aligned now with our sun, which is aligned with our Earth. So that is creating a shaft, a portal, it’s going straight through to planet earth, showering the planet earth with that energy frequency and vibration. What was really extra special this year was that we have the new moon exactly in the path. So with serious sun, moon, earth, so this was especially powerful. Just like on the new moon and the full moon, those are especially powerful times and for us to set intentions. So that’s why we do new moon and full moon intention setting and clearings. So, in on top of this, the Sirius star is in alignment with Orion’s belt that has three stars. And those three stars were aligned with the tip the points of the three pyramids in Giza. So, I mean, why were the pyramids built? Who built the pyramids? You know, did they build them exactly to line up with, you know, Stargate Ryan, you know, was that how serious came in and maybe maybe people for, you know, whatever you want to call them, aliens. Other other types of beings came down, and were able to access Planet Earth, and maybe they that’s how, you know, when we when we send the shuttle off, for spaceships off, it has to coincide in line with, you know, the planets and things moving around in the sky. So it’s the same thing, if another entity wants to come on a spaceship to Earth, maybe there has to be certain portals that takes for them to come down. And maybe that’s why the pyramids are pointing up to those three stars. So that’s what happened on August 8, so July 26, to August 12. That is the portal opening and closing. So begins just like you see, you know, the moon, the moon slowly going from full moon to you know, New Moon, we have that energy shift as well, during that date, but August 8 is the apex of that alignment and the most powerful day. So that’s where everyone does a ceremony on August 8, but we really do the work from July 26, all the way through to August 12. To get that full, you know, you can utilize the energy, this is what we have to use to upgrade our consciousness, we need to utilize these tools that are given given to us by God really through the makeup of our cosma cosmos, we’re really need to utilize the tools which we’ve forgotten to use because they’ve dumped us down with freaking TV with even Disneyland. I mean, it’s the dumbing down of our society. I mean, they just finished some state just passed the law that you don’t have to be able to know math or read to pass your high school examination. Really. And there’s there’s no lot of modesty anymore. Every album cover every every video, you see, it’s just people wearing hardly anything. It looks super hot and sexy. Hey, yeah, I get it. I see it. But it’s not. It’s not serving our youth culture. They’re growing up thinking what do you want to be when you grow up? Oh, I want to be a rock star.

Brandon Handley 23:40
Well, I always I always make that joke. My own joke anyways about like tipper gore and our board back in the day, right? When they were trying to you know, kind of pull back some like to live crew and and all those other albums. But this isn’t really this isn’t benefiting anybody. And then it was a freedom of expression man and you know, but really, it’s a you know, there’s this interjection right injection of just kind of like this, this continues to type and this this. Why would we encourage

Lisa S Johnson 24:20
that? Well, it starts to encourage disrespect or kind of a lack of respect. I think it’s

Brandon Handley 24:29
respect even. Yeah,

Lisa S Johnson 24:31
I mean, talk to any kids today about dating, and how to date I mean, it’s dating online, they meet online or, and what do they do? They share pictures back and forth. And you know, how many pictures and how kinds what kind of pictures you know, and languaging that goes on online and just the music I mean, last year, the Best Song of the Year, was, like the most vocal vulgar title ever like I can’t even I can’t even think of what it is right now. But it’s like really bad.

Brandon Handley 25:07
Is it that cardi B song? Like fat or something like that? Alright. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s interesting where that’s, that’s, I agree, right? It’s kinda like was, was that gonna be enough? But anyways? Look, it is what it is, in that regard.

Lisa S Johnson 25:29
I’m gonna have to change, things are gonna have to change because I believe you’re right, you’re breaking down the morality of our whole society. And, hey, pick up my boxers. You can see one of them there. Yep.

Brandon Handley 25:45
But I’m just like you were saying earlier? Do you see like kind of having on the horizon? Right? Are you seeing a change and a shift in consciousness yourself?

Lisa S Johnson 25:55
I am. And I’m hopeful. Because even though things don’t seem like they’re elevating, I see a lot of things changing. I haven’t see a lot of people doing yoga. I mean, of course, I’ve been in I’ve been doing yoga and teaching yoga for 20 years now. And the yoga community is a billion dollars, something like a $70 billion business. So there’s a lot of people doing yoga, and even if they’re not doing meditation, it’s the precursor to meditation. Because doing the movement of yoga, if you’re going to Chaga class or, you know, Bikram yoga class or vinyasa of some kind, what have you, you’re going through the motions, you’re doing the physical aspect, just know that that’s only one aspect of doing your. So But yeah, I think a lot of people are doing yoga, and that is helping them to find some sense of their body, feeling their body and feeling their extrasensory perceptions. And that over in time is going to lead people to self inquiry. And if that self inquiry expands your consciousness, and we learn how to deal with ourselves and calm ourselves, and then we can learn to deal with the next person in our family, or brother or sister or spouse, whatever, we get to practice every day, the tools of yoga, being patient and compassionate and just with not only with other people, but with yourself. And that transcends to when you go to the grocery store and working with that person at the slow with the tail, and you’re in a hurry. And, you know, trying to deal with that emotions, the emotions and the irritation that you have, and, or, you know, watching the news, and you know, seeing the world being Polaroid rise right now. And just learning how to look at it on a macro level. So you don’t get all caught up in the details in the micro level in your world and allow it to upset your world and upset your body and upset your body to a point of this discomfort and disease and disease. And, and, you know, I think that’s been happening on our planet for a long time. And we’re we’ve got a disease on this planet right now. We’re really diseased in more ways than one being personified by a disease COVID right now. And we’re polarized on that subject, too. So it could help. We’re going to help us through all of that and get to the other side.

Brandon Handley 28:30
That’s the cleaner. Yeah. The antenna cleaner. Yeah, that’s it right. And get it all get it all situated. I mean, you got to start somewhere. And I think that it’s impressive to see just how fast Yoga has taken into the US. Right. And it’s been growing, I think at a fairly rapid clip. Understanding is my real low level understanding since I’ve been in the States, you know, since around 1900, or when whenever Yogananda came over, give or take, yeah, correct. Yeah. Now, I want to use HostIn while you were talking about the serious story, he talks about the Syrians. Was that like, you know, what he’s saying there?

Lisa S Johnson 29:15
Well, there’s no way that we are the only intelligent and living life in the entire cosmos in the entire Milky Way. Galaxy number one, and then there’s something like 100 million, probably infinite number of galaxies, and then every galaxy has like 500 billion stars. I mean, there’s just no way we’re the only living I mean, at one point dinosaurs rule for planet Earth. Reptiles that didn’t speak English that look pretty freakin scary. So there could be, you know, the Draco’s, they say is if species. They look like lizards or what have you, and they might just come down on the earth. That would be kind of scary. They might eat people we don’t really know. Do I believe they’re Pleiadians? Yeah, I do. I think that’s a star. And I do think that there are living entities there and why maybe they’re the ones coming down here and doing this crop circles, because the crop circles are a, I believe a phenomenon of UFO within me difficult. You’ve seen recordings of the little white balls that fly around and suddenly and, you know, very quick speed of lightning time, there’s this amazing geometrical, perfectly mathematical structure that humans can do. They tried in the middle of the night to do it in the middle. And you know, there’s no way I mean, it doesn’t it’s not a sophisticated and they can tell the difference of the grass. So why they haven’t been able to help us out a little bit more? I think because we have to help ourselves out of it. Because otherwise, how is our consciousness going to change, like, what we’re trying to get off this planet, so we can just develop another planet and kill the all life on that planet to? Like, you know, I think that we’re, we’ve shot down spacecraft, they need to be careful about how they make any approach into they have to get us to where we’re more friendly, and willing to accept them. I understand as well, that there are our races that are already living on the planet Earth, and they’ve been living in the middle of the earth. And you know, the earth could be hollow. You know, if you look at, if you look at the toric field, a Taurus, it’s a circular motion, and it’s hollow in the middle, isn’t it? So the energy can go around what’s what isn’t there a hole at the top of Antarctica and the bottom of the Northwest Territories, you know, the top and the bottom of the earth? The note?

Brandon Handley 31:52
No, I feel like that’s a Google that. So that leads us

Lisa S Johnson 31:56
to Google Google, Richard bird. Richard bird was a captain and he was up in Antarctica time. And he went on a plane ride. And he got diverted, and he ended up somewhere in Shangri La. And he wrote about it, and he was forbidden to talk about it while he was still in the army. And when he died, his journal revealed it. So there could be something in the center of the earth. And there certainly are other intelligent beings in our soul, our solar in our, in our galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy, and in other galaxies beyond probably the infinite number of planets with living beings.

Brandon Handley 32:36
For sure, I agree. I just want to make sure I caught that, you know. And then last thing he talks about was outside of our gross body, right? Key share a little bit more about that.

Lisa S Johnson 32:51
Sure. Okay, so the gross body, that’s the three dimensional body in which we live, it’s our vessel is what we came into we birthed into through the top of our head, they say we have the soft spot in your head, that’s where your soul enters. That’s called the Vindu the sarga. And when we meditate, we can connect with that and actually drip the nectar into the brain and through the body. And one of the things that the breathwork does is helps to hold that nectar in the throat chakra by pumping the the energy up to the top of the crown and keeps that energy here and that helps you to heighten your awareness and your cosmic consciousness. We are we also have, we have 10 bodies of like consciousness. So the first body is your soul. That’s the soul body that that comes in through you. It’s the heart, it’s what speaks to you, it’s your inner voice, your soul body, then you have three minds, there’s the positive mind that weighs the positive things that are around you in a situation so you have to weigh out is this a good thing? Or is it a bad thing? So that so it tells you that it’s a bad thing is the negative mind see the positive mind telling you good things, the negative mind telling you Beware, beware danger danger. And then the fourth body is your neutral mind which is your third eye where it takes the positive and the negative aspects of any situation and weighs them within nine seconds, your your third eye, your fourth body, your neutral mind makes a decision and it will make it if you are clean and clear in your neutral mind through meditation. That’s how you clean and clear it. You got to meditate. You can make an accurate decision within nine seconds. Then the fifth body that’s that’s your physical body. That’s your 3d. Then you’ve got your your sixth body, which this is going to be your your breath because you got to breathe, you got your product body, your lifeforce, then your your seventh body, we have the our climb your auric field. Then you have your rain. To hit body, that’s the 10th body. And you have the nice body is the subtle body. And this is the one that helps you to give and receive with the subtle mind and the subtle, subtle body without thinking or saying, without saying anything out loud, you can utilize your subtle energy, you can will your will to, for that person to move a little to the left, so that I can see the guitar player on the stage better, right? You just like you’re driving down the road, and somebody’s going way too freakin slow. And you’re just like Dude, to the right. And then they go through flicker goes on and they move into the right hand lane. This is willing your will through your cell body and speaking your language with your attendants all in unison. So when all of those 10 bodies are balanced, that means your shoppers are going to be balanced too. And then there’s an 11th body and it’s called parallel use in this and that’s what all 10 bodies are aligned. And so my my my neutral mind, where I’ve made that decision that I want that guy to move to the right works with my subtle body, willing my will and energetically telling him to move and my Arc Line going VPP radar reader reader out you go Whoo, bro. xover. Or I go, you know, I need to call Nancy, I just keep forgetting to call her that I looked down on my phone A minute later, there’s Nancy calling. Like, this is how it works. When you’re in the nod which crash always is talking about, you know, I’m in the NA, you’ll call me up with these stories, you know how something happened. And that’s what that is being in the flow. As you said earlier,

Brandon Handley 36:35
your flow state, I think there’s an ease with with all that can happen if you allow for it. To write sounds like to me, once you’ve got these things in alignment, and you allow for it to happen, it happens with ease, actually, these things only happen. Well, they don’t only happen when you’re in an ease state, but they’re less likely to happen when you’re deceased. Right. And so there’s like this forest, and there’s a out of balance of, I guess all of these bodies, I’ve never heard them all. So it’s visually great to hear that and thanks for sharing that. But uh, you know, once you have these in alignment, things you begin to live in a state of ease would be my guess

Lisa S Johnson 37:23
you don’t have to do anything anymore. You don’t have to do, you just set your intention, and the portals are open, and it flows in. So you don’t have to struggle, I got to get this new job, or I have to, you know, I need more of this or that or the next thing. It’s just all comes flowing in, in divine timing, one of my favorite Montt affirmations that I’ve been working with for the last couple of years, and it’s so powerful, kind of like preamps, anything else, it’s, I am aligned with the highest expression of my future now. So the now is bringing it into the now into the present moment right now, not yesterday, not today, not tomorrow, it’s like right now. And I’m aligned with the highest expression of my future, in all ways. So in my relationships, and my health and my finances, in my career, I’m aligned with the highest expression for my future now. So what’s best for my future is what I’m what I need to align with. And I’m aligned, I’m telling myself, I’m aligned with the highest expression. So I don’t have to say, other mantras and other affirmations that say, I now have the right amount of finances in my bank, I now have the perfect publisher, I now have like, that’s a good way for moon ceremonies and something to write it like that. And I’ve just eliminated the need to have to do that on a daily basis. Because I used to say in the mirror doing near meditations, I used to say in the mirror, my mom long list of, of affirmations, and now I just say I’m aligned with the highest expression of my future now. It’s all done.

Brandon Handley 39:07
So right, this is kind of the end in mind, right now. And if you’ve got that end in mind, right now, then all those other sub things take care of themselves. Right? You don’t need that long list, because like, you wouldn’t have this one statement. If the rest of these underneath of it. Were kind of already done and

Lisa S Johnson 39:30
working. Yeah. And you know, I do that with the planet Earth too. I do say that our planet Earth is aligned with the highest expression of its future now. So that’s my greatest prayer for the planet. And when you say that things in the energetic field start to align. And that’s what I love about sacred geometry. I actually brought a couple pieces. This is the this is the flower of life. Most people know the flower of life and this is the blueprint of creation. And within it are all the platonic solids. And like the 64 tetrahedron, you can’t really tell. But this actually, when they when you invert the flower of life into a three dimensional, it’s, it looks like this, it’s there 64 triangles, which there are here in here. And then, you know, Megatron fits into the flower of life as well, which is all different. You can’t really see the triangles, but they’re in there, the tetrahedrons made up of 13 Circle points. And so if you meditate on these, this is metal strong, the triangle pointing up and down. And then there’s one that’s pointing back or forward, depending if you’re male or female. And this is your your meta Tron or your merkabah, the light spirit vehicle. So you asked about the 3d body, or 3d bodies, our vehicle, it’s how we move from A to B and move around the planet. But we can also move it when we’re meditating and spiritually and go into the cosmos. And this is actually three dimensional and it spins. So this is only a one dimensional, but it actually is a three dimensional and it spends. So if we look at these sacred geometries, which can also be referred to as a Yantra, with a geometrical line shape, and if I meditate on if I look at it straight ahead, and then I close my eyes, I’m going to see the imprint of this flower of life in my mind’s eye. And then that imprints it on to me on a cellular level, it all goes in that implantation goes into me on a cellular level, all my cell cells get a burst of that. That light of the of the sacred geometry, whether it’s the Firefly for the Sri entre is my favorite one is the entre for manifestation. And so this is how we get it into us on a cellular level. And this is what they’ve been doing with TV manipulating us forever, you know, with symbols and signs, and you see that and it goes into our consciousness. And then we get, you

Brandon Handley 42:05
know, what’s in there? Yeah, yeah, but we

Lisa S Johnson 42:09
can change it, we can restructure the geometry, and launch

Brandon Handley 42:13
sacred geometry monitors, meditation, taking your attention off of those things, right, that you allow them for so long, and realizing that they’re already there. And it’s like a garden or some weeding today, right? Yeah. That one’s that one’s there. We got it. And it’s still you know, sometimes like, just like in a garden, you feel like you got all the all the weeds out. But like, you know, you come back with the next day, like, I swear to God, I pulled that thing. Right, it’s still there.

Lisa S Johnson 42:43
analogy I know, and then you get to practice. Oh, you know, let me fix that. You know, but that’s the start of being aware and consciousness because you’ve become aware and conscious of it, and then you change it the next time, just like, you don’t beat yourself up. If you get into an argument with your partner, you know, or yell at somebody, then you gotta hurry up, I really was kind of out of line there. Now, I’ll get another opportunity to practice that in the next time, I’ll do better. So you don’t beat yourself up.

Brandon Handley 43:09
That’s in alignment with the two arrows and Buddhism, right? We talked about the first arrows, that’s already there. The second arrow is the one that you deliver yourself. Right? Like, kind of jerk was if you can eliminate it just by the example you just gave. So I think that’s a great example. I wanted to go real quick back to two pieces here. First of all, you know, I love your, your, your mantra, slash affirmation, slash prayer, because you pronounce it more like a command, then I’ll request is that intentional? Or is that just how you are with it?

Lisa S Johnson 43:51
I guess that’s just how I am with it. I didn’t notice that. I said, it’s more as a command. Well, the affirmation I definitely say as a command. Is that what you mean? I’m aligned with the highest expression of my future now? Yeah.

Brandon Handley 44:05
Absolutely. If I don’t get I feel like if I’m not getting in line with that, I might actually get in trouble.

Lisa S Johnson 44:10
Yeah, so I’m telling the universe. Hey, all right. Right. Up here.

Brandon Handley 44:16
So that’s also alignment with Um, I don’t know if you ever listened to or read Blaine hills? devil Book Three. Oh, no. So he’s got one that like was released, like post mortem and even to release it was kind of like, don’t do that. And basically, it’s talking to the devil, whatever. But and that was talking to him, like how do you talk to what’s in versus like, don’t ask for it, you command it, you demand it right? Like that’s yours by like, you know, the vine right and also other stuff. So as I was just curious, kind of where the command part was coming from. Definitely.

Lisa S Johnson 44:55
Also comes from my teaching with the chrome choudry because I studied For many years, he was my first yoga teacher. And he Bikram yoga class is very commanding. So you’ve got to get bodies to move in unison. You want everyone moving together and flowing together in a in a Bikram yoga class. And then it’s really a moving meditation. Everyone’s flowing together. And it’s beautiful breathing together. And to get people to move together, you have to be really commanding arms over your head, interlock your fingers, release your index finger stumps cross, no weight in your heels, hips forward, upper body back, no gap between biceps, arms and ears inhales. So long stretch up hold. And then do your right hand side. Like you have to talk like that, to get them to freakin do it on time with you. Then when it comes to Kundalini, we do mantra, and it’s different. It’s not commanding, it’s it’s very calming. And like, for example, like I just wanted, I loved your analogy about you know, planting the seeds and growing because there’s a meditation that I’m actually doing right now we practice. I’m in my fourth level two training out of five modules. So I’ll be a level two Kundalini trading teacher soon. And would they require us to do a 90 day meditation. So you know, it’s a challenge, every day you have to meditate is a 30 minute meditation, it’s not three minutes, five minutes, 11 minutes, you know, it’s 30 minutes that you have to sit and take out if your day doesn’t seem like very long, but sometimes it it seems like a long time in the day taking that 30 minutes out anyway, you. It’s a commitment, and it gets you to, you get to where you would miss doing a meditation if you didn’t do it. So that’s good, because you really want to meditate every day in twice a day, if possible. But then you just get to where you’re meditating all the time you’re driving, you’re meditating, we can always be meditating in the background, because we do the mantra, and the mantra becomes like that, you know, you get that song song stuck in your head. That’s what happens when you’re doing a mantra every single day. And the one that I’m doing right now is a three part.

Meditation for 90 minutes. There’s a mudra involved where you interlock your to you put your both hands and Gyan Mudra, which is the thumb and index finger touching, which is the seal of knowledge, the Seal of consciousness, and you interlock them, which now makes sacred geometry the vesica Pisces. So I really love this part of having this as a sacred geometry mudra then there’s three mantras. The first one is bond bond, and this one is invoking the Divine Mother, this the spiritual mother, the Adi Shakti, the creator. And then we move into the second mantra, which is don don ROM das guru. And this one is all about making the impossible possible. It’s called crossing the crisis. So the world’s in crisis right now. So that’s why I’m doing this meditation. So we’re recreating with the vesica Pisces, this is the symbol of creation, the vesica Pisces so we’re creating a new world. So the second mantra is all about making the impossible become possible through miracles and believing in miracles. We see miracles every day. And the more I do this mantra, I’m seeing miracles happen right before my very eyes all the time. It’s amazing. Okay, and then the third mantra is heart Hooray, howdy. Which means planting the seed, watching the flow of planting the seed of infinite creativity. Hari Hari Hari Hari is watching the flow of creativity. parkeri hari is manifesting that creativity. And how can a Petit WaheGuru WaheGuru is wow, and being taken from the darkness into the night that light that’s what a guru is goo is the dark room with the light. So why he is wow, I’m being taken from the dark into the light Waheguru and I’m watching the beautiful process of how everything is unfolding from the seeding of planting to the flow of the growing of the creation to the manifestation and to the final harvest. So that’s where we’re at right now on the planet and and everybody that’s meditating everybody who’s doing yoga, they’re planting these the seeds of a new world. Not a new world order, bro, a new world Love and Light and peace and truth and higher consciousness and compassion for each other without any kind of division, you know, just acceptance of each other, knowing the truth of what is right what is wrong so that we are in right relationship and doing right action for ourselves and for our planet and animal kingdom. And when we can find that balance, which I believe that we will because I was talking earlier a little bit about shriek Heswall, he wrote the cycles of consciousness, we have what’s called the yugas. And it takes the 26,000 year cycle for a for a full Yuga that goes from the Iron Age, Silver Age, the Bronze Age and the Golden Age. And that’s the Age of Enlightenment. And so we have come out of the Kali age and have entered into the the Bronze Age, which is the dwapara Yuga. And that’s where we are right now. And we are on the A sending part of that. So the you guys have a 13,000 year, a sending cycle and a 13,000 year descending cycle. So it takes 26,000 years. So we’re on a sending we’ve come out of the dark ages, we’ve come out of a really dense low level consciousness area. And now there’s we’re only going to go up now, but like a friend of mine says, gorgeous Sufi he’s he’s someone you might want to interview some time gone just Sufi, he’s cool. He’s a recording artists you can check out I’ll send you a link to some of yours. He says you could go through hell to get to have so for sure are in hell right now, but on our way to happen.

Brandon Handley 51:12
For sure, for sure. And I think that I think that we’re in an accelerated accelerated pace. So we’re gonna plug in real quick here, you know, cosmic wantaway on Instagram. Sounds like she might know her stuff a little bit on some yoga and and some of the background and sacred geometry. So I know that that’s something I wanted to get more into with you. And I don’t think we’re gonna have time for that. But I do want to call out the fact that I believe you got some sacred geometry intertwined on some of your book covers, if I’m not mistaken, and you want to toss out, you know, what about what is it about cosmic one away and let’s share a little bit about the book so that we can

Lisa S Johnson 51:52
have, okay, so I have two books, the first one came out called 108, rock star guitars. And when you when you first look at the cover, it’s, it’s it doesn’t have a guitar on the cover, it has motifs of guitars on it, and like a guitar headstocks and guitar bodies and but it looks it’s all formed in the shape of a lotus flower. And it’s all intertwined with the number 108, which totals nine in numerology, one plus zero plus eight. So there are nine, guitar headstocks to go around the flower petals, and around the circumference of the book. And when you first open up the book, the Sri Yantra sacred geometry artwork is inside of it. And it asks the question, why 108 and then I get to infuse the spiritual cosmic message of the number 108 and yoga philosophy. because music is spiritual, you know, music can take you to Nirvana. So I wanted to invoke that cosmic philosophy of 108 into the book. So that’s 108 rock star guitars. And now on September 28th, this year, my new book called immortal axes will be coming out. And the cover is similar. It’s no guitar on the cover, but there’s a skull that has the vesica Pisces sacred geometry in his forehead in the third eye. And his eyes are made up of the diamond inlay headstock on a Gibson Guitar. And that’s going around in his eyes and his nose is an upside down Flying V. And then he’s surrounded by little guitar bodies with gold. They’re all laid and gold sparkles. You know, it’s very sparkly, and it’s called immortal axes. Because when a musician makes music, he makes it on that wire and wood and that memory of that work is embedded in that wire and wood. And when the artist passes on, the guitar still is holding the notes and holding that music within it. And so that’s immortalizing the song memorializing that artists, just like the song itself when it’s recorded immortalizes the artists so there are about 47 artists in this book that have passed away. There’s 157 artists featured in this book including David Gilmore’s $4 million black strap that just sold and Rory Gallagher’s Fender super famous Fender Pete Townsend’s number nine Les Paul is in this in this book. Peter Frampton wrote the foreword and Suzi quatro wrote the afterword, some very, very happy to present this book to the world and hope that people enjoy it as much as I can as much as as much fun with as I have photographing it traveling around the world.

Brandon Handley 54:46
So one thing you know, for the people that are listening, and don’t get the chance to see the pictures and the artwork and the artworks amazing on these these covers, and I love what we were talking I love it for seen pictures but hadn’t seen the hadn’t seen it in somebody’s hands. Book and somebody says the book is large. What’s the dimensions on

Lisa S Johnson 55:11
108 rocks in our guitars weighs about nine pounds. And it’s let’s see, 11 inches by 13 is that you know, a and then the second book is a square book it’s 11 and a quarter I think by 11 and a quarter plus the the rock star of the cars one is a red leather leather rat, press press leather rat and this immortal axes is a black cover with gold and silver sparkling motifs on it have guitar motifs on it.

Brandon Handley 55:51
I think the artwork is so cool. And I think anybody would anybody into guitars Classic Rock, rock and roll this face would be you know, this would be such trying to sell. This would be like such a new gift. Something so cool. I love what you’ve done with it. Give me like one story of like maybe the most challenging guitar to get to, or like the one that you felt like, was like the pinnacle for you.

Lisa S Johnson 56:16
Yeah, well, one of them I have to say is Joan Jett, because you know she’s a woman and rock and she rocks really hard and she’s paved the way for a lot of women in music. Before even her there was Suzi quatro, Suzi quatro actually paved the way for Joan Jett. And Joan will will say that it was really hard to get to Joan. She’s not super happy to have a lot of photographers around. And so I think that was one of the issues that I kept requesting. And they just, they don’t really have photographers around, and I usually shoot before after shows. So I finally was getting finished with this book. And I really want to Joan and I’ve asked several times, because for me, she’s the most important woman to have in the book and as a female artist, because she influenced so many. And of course, Suzi quatro, she wrote the the afterword for the book, so I’m just so important to mean, and so amazing that she did that. But finally, I was rounding up, I was just finishing the book, and I really wanted Joan. And I just couldn’t not not have Joan. And so I finally realized, you know, I’ve worked with the heart Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for so many photoshoots and I was there doing a shoot, I think it was it was before the David Gilmore shoot Anyway, it was one of the shoots. And I said, by chance do you guys happen to have a Joan Jett guitar? In the rock hall? And they said, Well, well, yes, we do, actually. And so then I realized, you know, I’m just gonna find out if they’ll let me photograph the guitar. They don’t have to do B here. It’s not before after a show. And so we went back to them and said, Hey, you know, how about just let me photograph the guitar that’s at the rock Hall. And she’ll do the rest. She’ll make all the arrangements. And they said, Yes. So it’s

Brandon Handley 58:07
very cool. I just want to give the idea to that. This is a kind of like a life that you follow your bliss, kind of thing. Right? You followed your kind of journey followed your heart, and does this production is a display of that.

Lisa S Johnson 58:26
Yeah, it wasn’t easy. I have insecurities just like anyone else. And you know, when you’re putting your neck out there for yourself, like, you know, I’m a photographer, and this is my work. You’re putting your soul out on the line, you’re showing your photos and it’s something that you like, it may not be that somebody else likes, you know, so you you get a lot of nose. I’ve had to hear no, a lot. And then I’ve had a lot of yeses, and I’ve had way more yeses than I’ve had knows. And it was because of perseverance and just not taking no for an answer. I mean, I asked, had to ask Billy Givens people many, many times until I finally met him under the stage at Rolling Stones concert and said, Hey, Billy ever trying to get through to you, you know, and then the next time I requested I got a yes. So and then just saying, like, I don’t have Mark Knopfler yet. And he’s one of my all time favorite guitar players in the world ever, ever, ever. And I’m not going to give up on Mark even though they’ve told me no. They’ve said no. Many times.

Brandon Handley 59:30
Hold now for what’s your now for so I think the story is great. I love I love what you’ve done. I really want to say thanks for stopping Jose. I do have one more question for you today. We’ll say a little bit of spiritual speed dating. I figured somebody is on here and they’re looking for their next like spiritual date and you could be it. Okay, so that’s where we’re at number one. What was the specific one? I think it fits what’s the relationship between science and Religion.

Lisa S Johnson 1:00:01
It’s getting closer and closer. I think that CERN has certainly helped to view the science experiments they’ve been doing at CERN. Trying to find the God Particle. I think that’s been important. And I think that science is finally recognizing, they never get to find. Because you can’t see that with your eyes. That’s something you have to feel. And science is finally starting to understand that. And I know that they are because even quite a few years ago, they put Ken Wilber on the cover of science and spirituality magazine. I think it was. And he was he’s ahead, you know, if you haven’t studied Ken Wilber, he’s someone really interesting. And I learned a lot from him and and now that’s correlating with somewhere. So I mean, yeah,

Brandon Handley 1:01:00
I know. I know. He’s on the list. Okay. He’s on my list.

Lisa S Johnson 1:01:04
But yes, yeah. Listen to the CD series called cosmic consciousness cosmic with a K. That’s all you need to do. Just get that series you can. I think you can download it on iTunes now or cosmic consciousness. Ken Wilber. It’s one of the most important things you could listen to. And there you’ll see science meatsuit spirits rally and what he talks about. And you can watch shrieve testhorse book, the science of yoga, and that is bringing science and spirituality together, check out what cern is doing. And of course, students at CERN has gotten really weird. So there’s some strange stuff going on at CERN, too, but

Brandon Handley 1:01:45
black holes,

Lisa S Johnson 1:01:47
I suppose. Yeah. A lot of stuff has happened over there.

Brandon Handley 1:01:51
Oh, man, that would be cool. That would be cool to know more. Well, he’s so much fun. Where should I send everybody to go check out your books.

Lisa S Johnson 1:02:01
Okay, so to check out the books, go to my Instagram, at LS j for Lisa s Johnson at lsj rock photos. lsj rock photos is where you’ll find me on Instagram. And there’s a link there my link tree that allows you to both of my books, and for cosmic wantaway for yoga classes comm and rock your Kundalini with me every Saturday from 10 to 11am PST, that’s Los Angeles time. And it’s just a one hour long class from 10 to 11. And we get into all the subjects that we’ve been talking about. And we do a Korea for about 30 minutes, and we do meditation and it opens with some context around what the class is about and what the meditation will be about. And then we go right into it. And we have a gong bath, or a sound bath afterwards, because the gong is very important. It’s the most powerful meditation, it clears the subconscious mind. So we do a gong wrap at the end of every class. So come and rock your Kundalini with me at cosmic 108. It’s cosmic underscore 108.

Brandon Handley 1:03:08
And you have made how many Saturdays in a row

Lisa S Johnson 1:03:14
since COVID started so we’ve gotten a year and a half now, isn’t it? You know, started in February or March of last year. So March, April, May, June, July, August. Yeah. So it’s a year and five months, every single Saturday, I’ve only had one class covered for me by one of the teacher and that would be our friend Parrish. He’s, he’s jumped in when I when I needed him to come and teach a class and he’s very fun. Have you taken this class?

Brandon Handley 1:03:41
I’ve taken a couple of his, like zoom classes. Yes.

Lisa S Johnson 1:03:45
Yeah. Yeah. He’s very funny. He’s fun. And he’s, he’s ahead. You know, he really with that Harvard education, his brain like,

Brandon Handley 1:03:54
you know, for sure. For sure. Lisa, this has been so much fun. I’m so glad that we we finally we finally got the chance to put the time and again, I love I think the artworks amazing photography is fantastic. I love the size of them, write your books and just don’t Kundalini, I think of bringing that out to the world and letting people do that with you. And that’s just on the set. As you said, You’re helping so

Lisa S Johnson 1:04:24
I’m here to serve. That’s what we’re here to do on the planet. Follow our be creative. And follow your heart, listen to your heart, and be creative and then everything falls into place. So and being in service with your creativity. So that’s what I’m trying to do bringing joy into people’s lives just because they get to see their favorite guitar

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Have you ever pondered upon the fact that god exists everywhere, even inside you? Do you feel that you’re capable of manifesting things for your own happiness? You’re doing your daily duties but there is always a greater calling? People like to live in disbelief and not gain the consciousness they can and agree to live the same monotonous life. But you realise you can do way more and are capable of achieving greater satisfaction?

Here’s the hard truth: you are so much more than you believe you are.

In this episode, we are joined by Sarah R Adams where she talks about his experience with the supernatural, energy and gaining consciousness.

Tune in to this episode to learn more about this whole new array of things and how to get your hands on it.

Here are three reasons why you should listen to the full episode:

  1. Understand the different ways you can bring up your energy and gain consciousness. 
  2. Discover the importance of the supernatural and realize how the divine is inside you.
  3. Learn the significance of practicing consciousness and seeing more than the material world.

Episode Highlights

[01:00] Introduction

  • Sarah talks about how it wasn’t easy to bring her knowledge to the public eye and how it was a learning process to handle it.
  • She talks about how life is hard for many people and humanity on a lot of levels and how she helps them tap into their inner self. 
  • She talks about her working experience and her journey with Gaia.
  • She mentions her experience with the death of a close one and her working experience with the Vice. 

[07:30] The Feeling 

  • Sarah talks about how she can feel the pain and suffering of other people even though they are across the world.
  • Whether we know it or not, we can always feel a person’s suffering. 
  • People need to realise that they are more than just a physical body but rather energy.
  • People need to go out and bring out the cosmic energy.

[12:36] Interacting with Mythical Beings

  • Sarah discusses how she interacts with mythical creatures just like any other human beings.
  • To interact with these beings, you have to bring your consciousness and energy up.

[15:56] Reconnecting

  • After bringing in the energy, you have to master it. 
  • People don’t know how to clear their energy and are stuck in a web.
  • To access the energy, you must acknowledge it first.
  • If you are a mess on the inside, you are a mess on the outside.

[22:10] Instructing Energy

  • Mastery can be achieved by everyone.
  • Being on the earth, is a gift given to us.
  • You need to go in and clear your energy field and create a new space for yourself.

[25:22] Books and Religion

  • Sarah talks about how she loves books.
  • The true word of god is within us and that is how we can access him.
  • Religion causes havoc and puts the wrong idea in people’s heads.
  • Everyone puts lies and the truth together to make it believable and magnetic as in the Bible.
  • Sarah talks about the matrix and the different systems explaining energy level and functioning of creatures.

[38:55] The Divine

  • We must all work together to heal the world. God is energy that flows through us.
  • We are all a part of a beautiful divine puzzle. 
  • People need to find their issues from their inner self.
  • Religion keeps people from healing. 
  • Once a person realises his powers, he is more powerful than the angels.

[44:56] God

  • If god were here, he would not put anyone above anyone else.
  • Some people are really accepting of their powers while others go on questioning their existence. 
  • Sarah talks about her reincarnations and her bodies from the different times. 

About Sarah R Adams

Sarah has experienced many things from seeing abductions to seeing angels who aided her. Her awakened consciousness increased as she got older. She experienced the supernatural and past lives in Egypt & Atlantis. telepathy, weather abnormalities, feeling others emotions, remote viewing, quantum leaping, and time travel are among the other alternate realities Sarah has endured. “I’ve healed so much and believe every day is a healing journey to greater heights”.

Sarah works with many clients around the world in what she calls “Intuitive Healing”. This includes using homeopathy herbs, supplements, diet super foods, detoxing, energy work, essential oils, visualization, mediation, subtle energy work, cellular work, all to heighten the frequency of the temple and precious bodies we have been given. She has made TV appearances on Gaia TV including Beyond Belief, Buzzsaw and Ancient Civilizations as well as Coast to Coast AM, Vice TV, The Bases Project, co-hosting the Divine Truth Show on Revolution Radio and many others.

Sarah Adams continues to be a major force in the world of enlightenment while healing many around the world.

Connect with Sarah at https://www.sarahradams.com/ or on instagram @divinehathor1985

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Brandon

Brandon Handley 0:00
All right, cool 54321 Hey there spiritual dope we are on today with Sarah R. Adams Sarah has experienced many things from seeing abductions to seeing angels who aided her. Her waking consciousness increased as she got older, she experienced the supernatural and past lives in Egypt and Atlantis, telepathy, weather abnormalities, feeling others emotions, remote viewing, quantum leaping, and time travel are among the other Ultimate Reality sir has endured. I’ve healed so much and believe that every day’s healing journey to great heights real quick in there. I mean, it’s just in the intro, sir. endured so much, right? I mean, entered all these different all these different phases, phases and places is that kind of what you’re saying there that you’ve entered.

Sarah R Adams 1:00
So it’s been a long journey. And, you know, thank you for bringing that up. Because this morning, I was pondering on that, during my meditation, you know, it wasn’t so easy to bring all the knowledge and all the things that I experienced to the public eye, because there’s still a lot of close off people out there. So it was definitely a learning process for me of how to handle that and how to cope with it. So that was definitely hard. At one point, I almost stopped doing this work. And I’m very blessed that I had some major supporters in this field that reached out to me to encourage me to continue the work that I do. So yeah, that was that was definitely hard. And then, of course, you know, I’ve come to a plan, I’ve been putting it on a planet, where it’s, life is hard for a lot of people and I’m able to tap into their feelings, their emotions, their hardships, that suppression that’s going on on this planet. So that also was very tough journey for me to just, you know, be able to just be able to, to process that because it was really intense to experience all of those things. But on the bright side, I, you know, I’m able to really help out humanity on a lot of levels. And I’ve helped out 1000s of people all around the world, of course, I’m doing a lot of work to help out the planet. So in the end, there’s, there’s the light at the end of the tunnel less or shit,

Brandon Handley 2:32
not for sure. And you’re talking about, you know, the beginning of your journey, or at least, you know, prior to where you are now. And, you know, as I hit in dirt first one of the things that I noticed on your bio, too, is that, you know, you’ve made two appearances on Gaia. TV, beyond belief you’ve done with coast to coast, Vice TV and saw these other faces. So, you know, continuing to move forward for yourself, you were able to and I feel like you know, at least this country and maybe the world is opening up to this space in place, right? Or somebody like yourself that’s got these talents and gifts to share, right?

Sarah R Adams 3:15
And it is you know, so I decided to work for Gaia. I had, I had a an experience in England, that was very tough at the time, I lost somebody that I deeply loved. And we were doing a lot of work in this field. I kind of just, you know, stayed in England in a small seaside town, with family with extended family members and I decided to stay there and kind of step out of the public eye. And then I got this call from Gaia and Gaia. They when the producer spent like four hours telling me you know, we’re really professional here, we’re going to be very good to you. We we love your work. We have a lot of faith in you. We want to support you can you fly over to the United States and come and do some work with us. And of course, Netflix reached out to me at the same time for two other shows. And I ended up deciding not to work for Netflix and Gaia because that was initially what my read was to choose Gaia because I believe they’re doing good work for the for the world because they are given the experiences of blessed intuitive healers out there and have awakened people out there to a larger platform and a lot of people are open to Gaia and it is for me it’s amazing because it was hard before you know you do your YouTube accounts, you do your interviews, your live feeds, but then Gaia really is at a level where that’s becoming more mainstream and they’ve done a lot of work to get us out there and I’m so thankful for that I’m so blessed for that. And for the just for them giving me a platform so I could get the information that I have out there. Because for me that information is vital. And I checked a lot of information on self healing on healing others on healing the planet. And these are this is information humanity needs right now. So I am deeply grateful for that.

Brandon Handley 5:22
Yeah, no, that’s, that’s awesome. Right. God is a great platform. I think it’s interesting that, you know, you chose that over Netflix. But you know, my instinct would also, you know, say that, you know, that’s the platform that was right for you, right. I mean, it’s a kind of, like a forest bias kind of situation, right? With Gaia.

Sarah R Adams 5:45
I’m tremendously thankful to device because we did film this whole show. Of course, at the time, I wasn’t doing very well, I was trying to cope with a with a person who is close to me, like I said, that passed away, it was in mainstream news, it was very hard for me to deal with, because I feel the energies of everyone. And I’m Vice came over I did a charity event in England, for children who have cancer, they came in helped me out with it. They stayed with me a little bit, and were so supportive. And, you know, then they decided to air the show eventually. And they were so sweet. They got on radio shows, and were so supportive of me, they eventually decided to the show, like a day before, I was like, I don’t think I could do this, right? Like, you know, I just don’t think that I can be out there more. I feel like I have to be in the public eye. They were so nice. They completely just got rid of the show never aired it. So I have a lot of respect for advice to

Brandon Handley 6:43
the school. Let’s say that they respected your wishes in that way. Yeah. So I love to start this off with this is not on, you know, usually I do a quick intro and to jump right into this question. So this is a, you know, we’re here, right? You and I are connecting here for this moment, this time, space in place, to let source speak through us to somebody who’s going to listen to the podcasts, or maybe watch the video at some point. And they’re tuning in to get a message that only you can deliver right now. So what is that message at this point in time.

Sarah R Adams 7:17
So, you know, for me, looking around, and even feeling what I feel from the planet and from the masses out there. And this is why I do the work that I do because I know of course I hear about homelessness and see homelessness and hear about abuse going on, I see it. But I feel it because I’m in God consciousness, I can feel what’s happening across the world, the pain and suffering. So this is why I’m so passionate about helping out humanity. This all needs to shift and change. And we need to understand that whether we know it or not, we’re feeling that person’s suffering across the world. We’re feeling the the energy of that person suffering, we’re feeling their emotions, we’re feeling everything, even though many are not aware of this. And so for me, awareness is really important right now, people need to become aware that they are more than this physical body is that they are energy and energy is what is what we’re basically everything is made up even solid objects, like the chair I’m sitting on, it’s just condensed energy that creates solid objects. So when energy is condensed, it creates solid object. So for me, people need to become reconnected. And once they become reconnected to the energy field within them, which is their soul, their spirit, there’s many names for it, then they could channel that energy, they could channel that energy to heal their organs, heal their physical bodies, and heal those around them and also heal the planet because the planet bunches on on energy, our bodies function on energy, we have a problem right now, this plant is depleted in energy, people are depleted energy, you know, and there’s, of course, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of info in the awakened community, about DNA and how you fly up your DNA how you should, you know, charge your chakra system your aura. But what people really need to understand is that they need to actually go out and do these things. They need to go do them and bring in the cosmic light and we could touch the moon, the stars, stars, the sun, we can even ask other bees come charges with ancient light codes. When that happens, we’re going to start to become more full of energy full of energy, our whole system will light up our DNA will light up because a body says a body that is deleted that is depleted. Functions right here in energy. It functions right here in consciousness, we need to ascend to higher consciousness to fix the problems to be solution bringers on this planet, and so we need to go we need to step from up down here to appear energetically wise. When we do that. We’re going to be gone conscious And we’re going to have the biggest library that’s infinite, that that’s eternal, challenge us the solutions for everything before for the suffering for the homelessness for everything. So I think that that’s really important right now, you know, it’s important, we were more than words that we actually bring in that energy, that we start to understand how energy works. And that we need to start to understand there is a lot of beings out there that want to help us, we need to do the work to bring in the energy, because again, we’re at here, the bees are here so we can access them. But once we bring our energy, if we’re going to get to the same levels, these bees, and they will interact with us. And then also, you know, there are kin they’re going, they’re more than willing to bring help and solutions to us. So for me, the biggest, biggest thing is that humanity understands that they have a soul, it’s made of energy, they can charge their bodies with more energy, and they can use this energy to go higher in frequency so that they can become multi dimensional again, so that they can reach new heights of spirituality, then they could channel the energy through them to heal the planet to heal the oceans and to clear the pollution and the negative energies off this planet.

Brandon Handley 11:17
So no small message, or a small message, a small message, right? No, and just just help me out here just with some of the language. So if I say God consciousness, and and and and then kind of the way that we’re talking and what you’re saying, could I liken it to the Akashic Record?

Sarah R Adams 11:37
Yeah, you know, that’s Yes. Akashic Record. vast library of eternal knowledge. Yes.

Brandon Handley 11:47
Okay. Every part of it. Yes. And, and I know, you talk about, you know, different beings or ETS, etc. Are they you know, would you say that they’re among us, and it’s just our inability to recognize them? for like, the dimensional are currently limited. Well, so the most of us, right are limited capability to see multi dimensionally or at a higher level. Um, and, or simply like, a belief block, right? Just like, you know, if you believe the stories of like, back in the day, when, you know, the story goes, Hey, you know, when Christopher Columbus came over with the boats, Indians didn’t see the boats because they didn’t know what a boat was. Right? So how are you going to see something? If you don’t know what it is?

Sarah R Adams 12:42
Well, you know, it goes back to the whole thing of energy that I just explained, yes, there’s many different beings I interact with leprechauns, fairies, elves, many different mythical creatures that I speak to, and I see them like I see you. Now the thing is, is when your energy fields down here, you’re functioning from lower consciousness, when your energy fields up here, you’re functioning from higher consciousness, and you’re also tapping into these other beings, when you’re functioning from up here, it’s all about energy a depleted body, simply your client kind of robotic kind of show off, you can’t access other realms, you can’t access other dimensions. So you’re down here living down here. So the thing is, is that to be able to communicate with these beings to interact with them you have to bring your energy up you have to bring your frequency up. And of course when I go to save God, you know God consciousness for me, God is an energy that flows through everything it flows to planets, to realms through everything, and this energy interacts with us of course, we have a certain amount of it in us and otherwise we would be dead because the organs and everything functions on energy but what we need to use we need to understand how to bring energy into us. So we can speak to this moon stars the sun, the ancient spirits of light, we can say, you know charges with more energy and that will happen as our frequency goes up, then we’re going to start interacting with other beings. And even a non believer can do this for somebody who’s never had a spiritual experience in their life or or interacting with an ET or any other supernatural creature. If you just bring your energy up, you’ll have those experiences.

Brandon Handley 14:21
Okay, so if Let me also are you I’m sure you’re familiar with David Hawkins and the consciousness map Yes or no?

Unknown Speaker 14:30
A little bit.

Brandon Handley 14:32
Okay, and I bring that up because he’s got like, a basic graph right? Just says hey, you know, low consciousness down here. And you know, gives you like, certain like levels right? Sounds like a ladder up to like, you know, God consciousness, right? Because, you know, where if everybody’s got like this lower consciousness now, then we’re stuck in fear, right? Then if you’re stuck in fear, then like, you know, you can’t see shit. You’re stuck. You can’t see anything because you’re just all using See his worry and fear? Yes. Right. And it’s going to take you to kind of there’s a tipping point is like courage, right? Where you know this on the ladder where just says, Hey, alright, well, I stepped into or accepted like, you know, my divinity like might you know my source energy but it’s going to take me a little bit longer to figure out what to do with it next right like now you’ve got the source of energy you’re connected, you’re tapped in your love but you’re like still like this big blob because you don’t know what the hell to do with it. Right? Right. And then, you know, so he walked in and so you kind of walk up the ladder until you get to this higher consciousness spot that you’re talking about? And then you know that part, you’re at that that part but how do you how do you how do you walk somebody into, you know, get to get to become reconnected? How do you walk somebody, yourself like to get shot, like God love to get charged some ancient like codes, I’m down, like, I mean, so what’s that process?

Unknown Speaker 15:56
I can arrange that for you? And yeah.

Sarah R Adams 16:01
You know, okay, so you’re right, you know, you tap into, or you bring in this energy and you’re kinda like everywhere. So then you have to master that energy. Because, you know, God, which we’re gone mastered the elements price master the elements Christ had owed to the ocean to comment it did. So you know, instead of letting that energy just everywhere you channel that energy. So you say, Okay, I want you to, to do this, this and this, and you instruct that energy. And that’s where you actually achieve what I call God. Entire, the entirety of access and God consciousness, because if you’re just in that chaotic energy, it’s going to eventually you know, cause a lot of problems. So then you have the energy you instruct it, okay, channel to the planet here, channel to my life here to create a new more success and blessings channel to this person here that needs it. So then we must know how to master it, which is quite important. Probably the most important, above all is knowing how to master yourself. So we have so many co pilots out there, nobody’s living as a master pilot of themselves, their energy fields, and this is causing a huge problem. They’re not, you know, we take showers every morning. But we’re our energy fields are full of gunk. And nobody’s actually cared to clean. A walk, you know, the city’s his stuff. And it’s passed back and forth and eventually returned to this like dense web of energy. And they don’t know why they’re depressed, why they’re feeling bad, why they’re sad, why nothing is manifesting good in their life. It’s because they’re all in that web. So it’s really important to understand how the energy field and to clear it, bring in energy and then master that energy.

Brandon Handley 17:43
How do I get myself out of the web?

Sarah R Adams 17:47
You know, so I work in symbolism, of course, I’ve done some work on Gaia for this. And the body of Christ said that the body is a temple. The body is the original church. By the way, we weren’t meant to go to church to access God, we were meant to this soul code symbolism permit to access God within here. No, we’re looking for God and books, religions, all this all these places, failing to realize that the most powerful force actually lives within us. So to access that force, you must first acknowledge it, you must acknowledge that there’s this energy within you. And then you must also start to communicate with it. So it’s formed through our organs is formed through ourselves. So to bring more energy in what I like to do is I like to speak to each organ. So what I do is I visualize my DNA, I visualize it, and cosmic energy pouring into my DNA to light my DNA. Then I visualize a golden tunnel, I visualize myself flying up to the skull through this golden tunnel, until I got goosebumps all over my body. And then I go to PES five Do I go to 22 D. And once I get to 22 D, I mean God consciousness, I have my mind clear. I focus on my liver and you don’t even need to know where your liver is, or the organ you’re working on. And I ask I say, I say, is there any desert energies? Is there any toxins? Is there any ancestral energies? Is there any dense dense, toxic energies from things that happened to me traumatic energies, and then I clear my mind and weight and the organ response to a thought almost telepathically. And sales show me either I’ll get an image of like this black smoke energy that needs to be spent, there’s dense energies that need to be cleared or I’ll say, anger or it’ll say hurt or pain. Then I tell my system, just like you would press Delete on your computer, I tell my system, delete this out of my system, and I can feel the energy completely been removed from my system. Then I ask the Oregon again, I say what color do you need, and then they’ll tell me gold or blue. blues great for inflammation. Bold is great for to energize the organ. So I go through all my organs and do this, myself, my bones, my brain and do this because again, going back symbolism, if you go to Europe to the ancient churches there to the cathedrals there, they have an origin in it. And of course, when you play the organ the symphony is, is heard throughout the entire church. So our organs create the symphony, that that that flows through our entire body, our aura, our chakra system. So if one of our organs are off, it’s just like one of the keys of that Oregon, in that church feed off which will, which will create a symphony, that that sounds that that’s off, that’s out of tune, that’s out a symphony, and in basically the same as what the frequencies in our bodies, when organs are blocked by toxins, by trauma, by all these negative things, and their energies are off, then the frequency, the tune of our frequency, the symphony of the Divine within our frequency field is off. And then we start to create all sorts of issues everywhere in our life and our physical life, which is a reflection of our Symphony that’s off within ourselves, our frequency, that’s all within ourselves,

Brandon Handley 21:18
I can definitely see that right, you’re a mess on the inside, you’re gonna see a mess on the outside, right? I mean, right? Um, you know, how does one learn, you know, to master the energy, right, instructing the energy, I really enjoyed that versus kind of like, Sounds Sounds like a little bit more fun than your traditional prayer type of thing be like, please, you know, be really cool. If this happened, you send an instruction out again, you have to use in some program language, like, you know, create an instruction, this line always works for, you know, this thing, right? But how do you know, how do you tell somebody to, you know, again, going from, Alright, here’s all this energy, it’s a mess, but like, how do you go from that to just being able to instruct it? Because mastery is something that takes a long time, it’s not something that takes a month. Right? So what are some of the stuffs there?

Sarah R Adams 22:09
I think, reason that, you know, it mastery, for me can be attained by everyone in quite a short, short space of time, once they understand how their system works, because we’re bodies, right. And we’re seeing them as prisons, we’re seeing them as negative, we’re seeing that we’re caught on this planet, rather than understanding that their divine tech. And this was a gift giving to ourselves when we were in the realms of spirit. So we could have a 3d physical experience. And we are not, we are not treating this physical body, this tech, right, we’re not understanding how it works. So you know, because of this, I feel a lot of the and while I’m very thankful, and have a lot of honors, honor for those who have taught about mastering oneself, I believe, once you connect to your system, it goes quite quickly. So you speak to your organs, once you learn just to do it to one which takes a couple of minutes, I teach this to my clients, then you go through them all, and it doesn’t take long. And you know, in three weeks, I have people who are completely it’s almost like they’re reborn again, they’re they completely are mastering their, the frequencies within themselves. And they’re there. They’re channeling higher frequencies. And so I really, for me, the knowledge of how to how to unite the spirit, God energy. So it’s one with the physical body, which is also divine tech, that knowledge has been lost. And so this is creating a problem because there’s there’s people discover different ways to master their energy fields, but they haven’t truly tapped in that, hey, you can go into your system, just like a computer, where you press Delete, you can delete all of the old energy system out and then rebuild a new energy system. And this is what Christ meant and Bible that thou shalt be born again, it doesn’t need to actually physically die, it means that you need to go in and clear all that old energy field and create a new one. And you can do so. And, you know, it’s quite easy to do once you once you step into that.

Brandon Handley 24:18
I mean, I guess I could see that right? The idea of connecting, going through a process learning the process. And then once you’re, you know, tuned in, tapped in turned on, right, you’re you’re Oh, yeah, you’re good to go.

Unknown Speaker 24:33
But well, you

Brandon Handley 24:35
know, the other part too, right. I think you mentioned this and I wanted to tap on it. He talks about like books and religions as being not like imminently necessary right for, you know, to be able to do this. However, I mean, would you also say that i like i like if I read a book, and I understand something to me that I think As my level of where I am versus the book per se, right? Is that fair to say? Like, so if I pick up a religious book and I’m like, Oh my god, I have an epiphany. It’s not necessarily a book. It’s just my understanding. Exactly.

Sarah R Adams 25:14
Yes, exactly. And, you know, the thing is like, I love books, by the way, a lot of antique books. I have books from England, I have quite a library of say love books, but at the same time, I know being a God consciousness, I instantaneously know things. And like the Bible, okay, so the Bible, first of all, it’s not, it’s almost like being worshipped. People are so obsessed with the Bible. It’s insane. It’s, it’s, it’s deterring them from a god, which

Brandon Handley 25:47
was misunderstood, right? Like, I mean, it’s been like, passed down from generation to generation, you got this one group of people is like, hey, let’s, let’s take all the literal meaning out of this whole thing. You know, which could, you know, translations never been altered over, you know, 1000s of years. So, you know, I’m sure everything in there is like, perfect. Right. And then they,

Sarah R Adams 26:07
well researched the Bible. It’s First of all, it’s, it’s not the word of God, because it’s a lot of different prophets, prophecies, history, and mishmash of things laid down put together then to then create the Bible, which is said to be the Word of God, which isn’t true at all. Um, but the true Word of God is within us, when we tap into that higher state of being, we just instantaneously No, because we’re in God consciousness, and we don’t need to read a book, because God is within us, and we’re accessing that. So for me, when it comes to religion, um, and, you know, this might be controversial to say, but I know don’t say controversial stuff, and I honestly don’t care because I know people need the truth, it’s going to help them out of this world that they’re living in of dense energies. And in the Bible, there was also a lot of political stuff put in there to suppress people, you know, just like says, pay your taxes, and this and this, and this. And then of course, it’s, you know, way the Bible too, is, for me, it’s quite a dense energy, because there’s, there’s, there’s the murder of millions of people in there, there’s the murder of innocent animals as sacrifice. And you know, any logical person, any person who’s somewhat functioning, R is going to look at that state, why would God construct to kill children, animals and 1000s of people, you know, if your god you would ever do that, that’s, that’s, that’s not gone. In fact, that’s the opposite of it. So for me, religion has caused a lot of havoc, it’s also put made people think that they’re sinners. And it’s made put people in this sort of like, energetic West system, which I feel is part of the false matrix system, false light matrix system, where it doesn’t tell them how to actually heal, it just makes them feel bad, because they’re sinners, and they have guilt and everything else. And it’s quite huge problem on the planet right now. And to send it to God conscious, you got to get rid of all of that, you know, and it’s sadly it’s ingrained in our very DNA, some of us because our, our grandparents and so on, have the everybody’s been in religion, and whatever you believe those codes are going to go into your children and your grandchildren. So a lot of people they, they’re, they’re actually being born with these codes that need to be re deleted out of the system. So they can have a free mind. So their souls can be free, so the energy can be free, so that they can actually function function from a higher consciousness. So it’s really important to to get rid of all of that, hey, the Bible is, was also King James, who had the whole Bible done, who did a book on demonology. Nobody knows this.

Brandon Handley 28:47
Nobody’s got that one.

Sarah R Adams 28:50
Yes, nobody’s got that one. He wrote a book on demonology, how to summon demons, but the Word of God and I do water research. I’ve done a lot of research on the Archons because I’ve encountered you know, spirits that feed off of other people’s energy field. And I really feel the Bible is tied into the archives and into lower spirits. Once we’re clear of energy, of guilt of negative energy and guilt and all that stuff, no, no negative spirit can can access us. So they want us to have guilt and they want us to feel like sinners, because when we do things can ask us to feed off their energy fields. I think it’s kind of religion was created. Almost for me, the opposite of the Divine is connected into the lower energies,

Brandon Handley 29:33
not 100% I can I can see that right and especially if you’re taking the Bible at kind of face value. I guess I’m referring to a lot of some of the other people that have given me a different perspective on it. Like neville goddard is a guy that like you know, I think gives you like a fun perspective on the Bible that doesn’t, it’s not the is based off of like astrology and all these other things versus you know, some other stuff and versus what I was taught growing up, I remember very clearly, like really listening to him, like driving off to some back roads, like talking about the Bible, like, you know, and to me the way that it was intended to be delivered, I was like, that’s it. Why is this? Why isn’t anybody talking like this, this is what you’re you’re supposed to be hearing versus, you know, if they’re talking about, like, for example, one of them was like, talking about the sheep, not following the sheep, per se, but like, you know, about, like, it’s the rough texture of the sheep versus something else, like all the symbolism, which, again, I’m sure, you know, up your alley, right. So not to dive too deep. But I mean, I think that to me, again, the bigger part of it all is like, you know, when you’re reading books, and I don’t feel like they’re, I feel like there’s definitely misinterpretation of the Bible. And I also feel like, to your point, you don’t need to go, when you go read all those books, understand that the things that are lighting you up are coming from your own understanding from within, right, not from that book, per se.

Sarah R Adams 31:02
Yeah. When you know, and there’s codes and symbolism and everything. So like, if I read something, and I’ve read the Bible, like, countless times, and I, when I read something, I see it differently, I’ll notice a person who reads it that, you know, they haven’t access God consciousness. They’ll take it literally and see it differently than me who actually sees codes in it. I mean, there’s a lot of codes and symbolism in religion, but those are stolen. Those were stolen from the ancient prophets, prophets, those writings and then, you know, given to us in different religious books, but is there sure is there some truth in bio, of course, there’s some truth in the Bible. And otherwise, that would keep people attracted to so they always put truth and lies

Unknown Speaker 31:46
together. It’s sure. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 31:49
no, for sure. For sure. It was funny. That’s who I had as a, I made a little note here, when you’re talking about the matrix. Remember where they’re the the cat like in the one scene, that kind of glitch for a second, like you said in the matrix, and then it was like almost a glitch when you said it was just kind of funny because you glitch in the matrix?

Sarah R Adams 32:06
She said, there’s two matrix, there’s two light systems, globalist plan. One is the original light system on the light system of ancient light, which is going through the forest, it’s flowing through everything. And then we have what I call the false light system, the false light system, is the pollution on this planet, because pollution is heavy, heavy, dense energies are being bombarded with pollution, negative belief systems, that’s another one. Whether you know, and we are actually born into a system where there’s, we go through schooling, that’s a system that closes us off from our creativity from the divine, where we go through jobs, that’s another system that makes us you know, basically almost like it slaves us for money. And it keeps us from our true calling, calling our soul path, we have all these different systems that are a part of this false light matrix system that we are born into, and that we grow into and that tell us what to think it tells us what to eat, it tells us how to dress, it tells us what to do on every single level, while it’s hitting us with pollution, so that our bodies because each cell by the way, and this is some This is some ancient knowledge here, because the ancient Egyptians, they used to be sun worshippers, and they would bring in the light of the sun and that would charge their aura and they’re in all the organs and of course, their chakra system. The cell is a solar panel with the light would come through it and charge our solar energy. However, the the brushes are, the pollution comes into the cell, and specifically heavy metals, we’re being bombarded with heavy metals everywhere, putting in different things like vaccination and stuff as controversial as that sounds. So heavy metals get into the cell and reflect out like a mirror. So the light cannot charge our auric field and our energy systems. So we are basically lower consciousness because we are not not charging. This is why we have so many energy vampires, people are depleted in energy, often, they are terrible to themselves and others their murders their abusers. Anyone who does not have a higher energy charge, they are basically functioning from lower consciousness, and they’re they’re vampires. They’re energy vampires. So we have this whole neural connected false light matrix system, which blocks the shoe light out is fucking, like I said, on a cellular level on an energetic level on a thought level, in the belief systems on all these different levels. And sadly, much of the planet this planet many millions of people are tapped into that false light matrix system and function from there. You have to completely disconnect from that and then you have to reconnect to the true life. That light of the Divine that flows through everything. So, you know, you have to kind of peel back the layers almost like an onion, you’ve got to peel that back so you can get to your core energy within yourself of the Divine

Brandon Handley 35:15
was something was first up. Like, I mean, you know, how do you recognize you’re you’re in, in, like, the bad matrix,

Sarah R Adams 35:26
I think it’s really easy to tell, you know, you’re going to be depressed, you’re going to be stressed, you’re going to be worried all the time, you’re going to be tired. There’s no joy in life. Because, you know, again, being down here and frequency, you, you have to be high frequency data, joy, bliss, love all those beautiful things to feel good. So if you’re down here, you’re gonna be sick and everything else, and that’s, you know, then you’re gonna be you’re gonna feel like you’re you’re suffocated in life. Those are a few of the things you know, that will tell you that you’re connected into the lower energies. And then of course, you need to start with level number one, and that’s the physical body, you need to start to detox it, detox it, detox it, and bring in light energies. So then, you know, you can bring in light energies, without doing any what I call visualization meditation, which is another level of bringing yourself up through drinking herbs, bringing in a lot of food that has light energy in it, that’s fruits, vegetables that have charged with the sun’s energy that moves energy to certain bring that energy into your body. Because our diet, you know, I noticed specially here in the United States, our diets are depleted in energy, literally minerals, nutrients, we’re in a dead diet. So we’re a week later, we like a walking dead. So it’s so important to bring those things to bring in vitamins and nutrients into your system to bring in a water that’s charged with energy. So I put my my water by the way, in mason jars and put it under the sun and moon put crystals in it. So I’m charging it, that’s one of the ways I like to do it. So then you’re going to start with the physical to just start to simply change his frequency through your diet through de toxin. And then you know, start to do things like meditation, visualization, meditation, start to do things, you know, physical things to get your body also healthy, such as working out yoga. Things like those are a couple of the first steps that people need to take to actually get themselves to higher frequencies.

Brandon Handley 37:30
Right? So this is, those are a couple, the first steps you’re going to take to break out of the, I’m just gonna call it the dark matrix into the light matrix. Right. And it’s kind of interesting as you’re talking, right, the the foods was like energy. I forget, I was watching some, you know, plant based diet but but, you know, basically you’re eating if you’re eating you know, freshly grown in the sun, vegetables and fruit, you’re eating the sun, that’s sunlight, right? I mean, it’s literally captured sunlight. So at least if you’re getting it into you, I could just see myself blowing out like the the metals or whatever from the inside.

Sarah R Adams 38:09
And that’s another thing, see what toxic toxins, um, you can also go in your system, and tell your system to transmute them. So you tell your yourselves, you know, I want you to transmute the energy of toxins chest, made it to golden light, and then charge yourself, you’re telling yourself charge itself with that. So we can actually go in our system and tell our system to transmute these energies of toxins into higher frequencies that will then charge us and bring us into higher consciousness.

Brandon Handley 38:44
what’s the what’s like, a timeline for something like that right to to is that require like belief that you you and your system, and your body can do that for yourself.

Sarah R Adams 38:58
And, you know, that’s why they really, in society try to make us feel less than inside. Because once we believe our God, that manifests is in herself. And we are immensely powerful.

Brandon Handley 39:11
So real quick, though, so if I’m God and your God, like, what’s up, I mean, you because I think I think a lot of people, though, if you if you were to say that, and you’re saying it right now they’re like, well, if you’re a god, you know, why is the world like this? Why don’t you fix it? And if I’m God, then like, why is my world like such a shit show? Right? Like, so? How do you address that to people?

Sarah R Adams 39:36
So it wouldn’t be fair, if only your God or I’m God, and we have all this power, that would be imbalanced. So God wants us all to know, we’re all God. And we must all work together to heal the world, because that’s fairness and balance. And of course, God is energy that flows through us. It flows through you, it flows through me and we must have All acknowledge that word God, this is quite important for the planet right now. And that because when we knowledge that, then there is no fair there is no, there is no nothing that can hinder us from healing our planet, but it would be unfair if just one of us forgot. So yes, even though I have quite immense divine power, it’s not up to me to clap, it’s up to me to say I have found God within, and pass that light to others until everyone saw their light within and works together to heal their planet. That’s what the divine wants, it wants us to know that we’re all pieces of this beautiful, divine puzzle. And we’re all needed. And we all need to step into our Christ consciousness, not just one of us, because, you know, if one of us came and healed the entire planet, it wouldn’t fix the solutions go back, they, they would expect to save your over and over again. They haven’t stepped into their Christ selves. But once you step into your Christ stuff, you understand that you come from a place of compassion and goodness. So you understand not to continuously do harm to yourself and others. So this is a this is kind of the grand plan divine plan for humanity. That’s why in religion when it says, you know, just there’s one Savior, that’s such a, it’s false. Christ said, All our Christ, Christ was trying to show people, I have powers, and you can achieve this too. And price that I’m God. And that was very controversial back then. But Christ had realized that he had this God force within himself, and he became one with it, and realized he was gone. And so he was trying to teach humanity.

Brandon Handley 41:43
Now that makes sense. I mean, I think that makes a you know, to the same to the same degree, almost, that if you and I were to run out and say that, God, right, those people right now are like, no, you’re not like, That’s messed up. You can’t talk like that. Right? But all you’re really saying is like, you know, I am filled with source energy to your VM. We started this whole thing off with a, you know, without that, without that divine energy within your body, that lifeforce within your body. You don’t work? Like I mean, and nobody figures out like how, like when you die, like nobody’s like, hey, did anybody catch the battery that fell out? You know, where does? Where did that life source go? Where did that God force go? Right? So and, you know, you’re talking about, like, you know, Jesus, I can do these things. And you can, you can do the same and so much more. Right. And that’s, I think, I love that line. I’m like, well, Dude, what’s up? You know what I mean? And so,

Sarah R Adams 42:39
like, what’s the Why? Why are you guys not healing people? Why are you guys why is the earth this way? Because they haven’t found the the, the issues within themselves, they have actually become one with the energy to understand their God. So that’s why nobody is really healing themselves and others has done this religion actually keeps people from accessing that. And, um, but yeah, I see that all the time. But hey, of course, I have been in Christ consciousness, I manifest myself beautiful, happy,

Brandon Handley 43:07
like, it’s worked out.

Sarah R Adams 43:10
Everywhere. Yes. So I am the master of my life through that.

Brandon Handley 43:14
works, right. But But I think what you’re saying though, too, and I heard down, like, it’s like a string of Christmas lights, right? Like, if one goes out, like, then the whole thing’s not working, right. So we’re all kind of like, in that string of Christmas lights. If we’re, if we, if we got a few that are busted, the whole strings not gonna work. So we all got, we all got it, bring our lights and you’re passing the light on to the next person, next person, you have just as much in you, as the next person does. It’s just their ability and willingness to recognize it, harness it and nurture it, is that what you’re saying?

Unknown Speaker 43:49
And, you know,

Sarah R Adams 43:52
like I said, there’s some truth in the Bible, but it says that, once a man realizes that he’s, he’s, he’s got Christ within him that he has power, more power almost to the angels. And that’s, that’s amidst power. And, but but God being fair to all, even with beings like me, who have come to this earth to channel this information, I don’t ever want to be on a pedestal. I don’t ever want to be above anyone. I just wish to show them what I have done within myself.

Brandon Handley 44:30
But I think that that’s it. That’s so that’s a tough one for people there because like, you know, it’s like, again, you’re not saying you’re above or beyond anyone, you just made a different choice to recognize your your connection to source right and that’s, that’s it, right? It’s not like, it’s not like you’re better than somebody else. Not like your higher not like your lower not like you’re more powerful than anybody else. See, there’s just like, this is, you know, like the whole Jesus thing, you can do this and so much more.

Sarah R Adams 44:57
Exactly. So I you know, I’ve devoted my life To showing people why achieved and that they can achieve just as much within themselves. And this is important because God is so fair God would not put one above another. So there’s just those of us who have realized that we’re God and we’re worthy, our own price, and there’s those who have not that they’re below us. Just they haven’t realized that yet. And at some point in the future, they will realize that

Brandon Handley 45:31
right, or, you know, depending on like, I guess where you were your stances on like the reincarnation bit, right, or just like, in next lifetimes, until, like, there’s a full recognition of, you know, soul experience, right, I’m here to have an experience. And you know, if I don’t figure it out this time, like, maybe you know, next time, right? So what are some of your biggest objections, somebody, you know, when when you tell them that they are God, that they are source? What do they say to you,

Sarah R Adams 46:03
it almost releases that makes them so happy, because they, you know, a lot of people look up to me. And so when I tell them that they’re like, incredibly happy, and they’re, it’s eye opening to them, because they’re like, Wow, you’ve achieved so much. And you do all these things, you travel dimensions, you go out of your body, you speak to ETS, but you’re looking at me, and you’re telling me, I’m God, and that really in a beautiful way shapes them, and they start to think about it and helps them wake up. And they’re very accepting of that. And they, you know, I help them realize their power within them. And that, you know, even though a lot of them a lot of people I come across, you know, sometimes they’ll just be having my, my cup of hot chocolate or tea, and I’ll look at the person who’s talking to me, I’ll say, you know, your God. And they just smile, and they like, tell me, you know, tell me about this. And I tell it to them, they understand it, and it really helps them to wake and more.

Unknown Speaker 47:11
That’s cool, right?

Brandon Handley 47:14
I definitely haven’t gotten to the point where I run around tell people that they’re God, right. But yeah, I see, you know, definitely. To the point, though, where I know that I look at everybody and everything is divine, right? That’s just kind of point that I’m at

Sarah R Adams 47:27
what he says all the time, when I’m walking on the street, I see a smiling child or a hair, bird chirping, or I feel the wind blowing through my hair. I’m aware, God is within me and all around me. And God’s always speaking to me. It’s such a beautiful thing. And it’s, for me, what’s heartbreaking, is that knowing that humanity has, they’re not opening the door to that. And that’s the solution. And once they did they never be lonely. Even if they were in the middle of the desert, they would know that they’re gone, they’re okay. And everything’s gonna be okay. And and there would be no fair, there would be nothing, you know, that could hinder them ever really, truly hurt them in any experience. So it for me, it’s really intense because I get to experience this. But I realized how hard it is for people who don’t have that support from the divine. It’s really hard. They’re 3d lives.

Brandon Handley 48:30
Do you feel like we’re turning a corner at all? Do you feel like the realization and recognition of you know divine within Christ Consciousness is accelerating?

Sarah R Adams 48:43
I do I believe that the pressures of you know COVID the pressures from our politicians, the pressures from our economy that is just been destroyed via these different things. I feel like the more pressure that humanity has on it, that they’re going to look deeper within they’re going to start to look deeper within and find that power, and that’s going to help them transcend all of these things. And that pressure is there to help them access the Christ consciousness to push them within more to step into their God consciousness.

Brandon Handley 49:24
Like a germination a source.

Unknown Speaker 49:26
Yes,

Unknown Speaker 49:27
I got it.

Brandon Handley 49:30
Let’s do ETS. Before we leave, just for fun. Give me the lowdown on the ETS Anju

Sarah R Adams 49:38
Whoo. So I you know, I had when my team who saw me shape, shape shift into et By the way, so I get this question a lot. People are like, what are you you’re you supernatural?

Unknown Speaker 49:52
Are you a goddess? Are

Sarah R Adams 49:53
you a witch? Are you this? I’ve had 1000s of different labels and names thrown at me. So, you know, we have these bodies right? So we have many other bodies A lot of people don’t remember this, but this is their only body that they’ve had. They’ve lived on other planets they’ve taken many different forms but above that they were in their spiritual in spirit

Unknown Speaker 50:17
world

Sarah R Adams 50:17
so their God consciousness, somewhere in God consciousness, I’ve taken bodies of ETS I’ve taken bodies in Egypt and Atlantis and this is my, you know, most recent body

Unknown Speaker 50:29
to daily driver,

Sarah R Adams 50:30
right so just like we take off clothes and put them on that’s how I see it. So yeah, I have had some incarnation says ETS different ETS Um, so that’s something that I’m highly aware of. I have merged in the energy from whenever I was in et so I have that energy within my field they beat motion energy for when I was in Atlantis from when I was in Egypt, and it has a lot of information it’s kind of amazing because I kind of left all this information and then pulled it back into this lifetime so that I can help out with the, with channeling knowledge to humanity. That was all this information I cut it during the time I went to fit into physical bodies. So with ETS, I mean, they’re again, they’re just a different body that they put on for a while to have experiences in. I speak to them sometimes like I said, I definitely go into the energy of when I was at et and shape shift that I’m quite aware of that people around me too. But for me ETS are our they’re my kin I’m always up with the council’s they, they’re so telepathic and they’re so they can feel things from other planets, they can be another solar system and feel things that happen on our planet. They’re quite in tune. And they’re kind of like the Sears is the divine is because they’re the powers that they have the technology they have comes from the divine they’re so close to the divine. It has an immense power that gives them all the technology all the abilities they have in fact Believe it or not the ET races that are that are the have the most light energy through them are the most advanced races not the ones who still energy.

Brandon Handley 52:14
Got two questions left. Got a favorite favorite et Ah, I

Unknown Speaker 52:18
can’t see that I

Sarah R Adams 52:20
I feel heartbroken say that because they all love me so much. And I love them so much.

Brandon Handley 52:24
So I just today could change tomorrow.

Sarah R Adams 52:29
I still have to stick with all of them. They do such divine work for the planet for humanity, and I’m so grateful to have their

Unknown Speaker 52:35
presence in my life.

Brandon Handley 52:37
No Wrong there’s no wrong answers. Are we that much more removed than from ETS in terms of being close to the divine? I mean, is it harder for us to get that close? Or have we made it harder for ourselves to get that close?

Sarah R Adams 52:52
humanity’s made it hard for themselves, you know, because never left humanity. These beautiful beings, interdimensional beings ETS never, never left humanity. They’ve never turned their backs on humanity’s humanity has turned its back on itself. And on God on its own children on it on its own planet, because they’re not they’re not stepping into God consciousness and they’re simply living a 3d life. So if humanity was made the obstacles for themselves,

Brandon Handley 53:23
so self inflicted kind of walls and cutting ourselves off from source. intentional or unintentional. You know, I think I think it could be argued either way, right? You know, what’s the Maya Angelou line where, you know, you do your best until you know better, right? And, yes. And I think that, you know, we’ve done our best with what we thought was the right thing for quite a long time only kind of to get to this point and be like, Oh, really, this is the best we can do. I think we I think we missed the turn back there, right? somewhere. So we should have turned left. We should have made a right. Well, so listen, I you know, there’s so much to do, which barely scratched the surface of you. But I just want to say thanks for popping on today. What is you know if what is like one thing you wish somebody had always asked you but never had?

Unknown Speaker 54:19
Hmm.

Sarah R Adams 54:22
That’s a hard one. But let me think for a second there. You know, I think that I wish that people would have understood that I was only that I’m only trying to bring them goodness and asked me about that more deeply and intensely when I was younger, when I had just gotten this filled in when everything was chaotic for me. You know, I wish they would ask more questions that came to me about the things that I experienced and about me being different. That would have been amazing. Now they do. So I’ve manifested that. But it’s something that I would have wanted when I first got into this field,

Brandon Handley 55:09
how would that have helped you?

Sarah R Adams 55:11
I think instead of people misunderstanding me, because a lot of them did, it would have helped them understand me a lot more,

Brandon Handley 55:18
just by kind of asking questions versus what was happening,

Sarah R Adams 55:24
versus theories or fair or I feel like people are very fearful of things that are different. And instead of approaching and fair, or having their theories or beliefs, they should approach with kindness and by asking questions, and getting to know those who are different, because, you know, I’ve had my share of where I was misunderstood, despite the fact that it was only trying to bring healing and goodness to the world. So I hope that that’s something that in this community, people can do more, they can just simply be honest with you ask a question, without any ulterior motive behind it, or belief system or theory about you. As somebody who has a, you know, I have a huge following. You don’t really know me, but you can ask me questions now honestly, answer. So I that’s what I feel. There was a lot of questions back then maybe not now that I wish people would have asked me so they will could have understood me better?

Brandon Handley 56:26
was one question that I could ask you that would help me understand you better.

Sarah R Adams 56:32
Take a guess. And you want go ahead. Come on.

Unknown Speaker 56:37
You can ask me anything?

Brandon Handley 56:39
Yeah, I mean, this is what I feel like I should have asked asked earlier in the show, but I mean, Was this something that you experienced? And I believe if I caught correctly, there was some abuse while you’re growing up, too, right. So was, you know, Was this something that was trying to manifest then? And Was that something that was holding you back from sharing more of your gifts?

Sarah R Adams 57:05
No. So I chose to come into I chose to come into a body and experience abuse, I could understand it, how can I go to a planet and help out that planet, I didn’t know what they were experiences. So for me, that just gave me a lot of knowledge, it could destroy me or truly hurt me. I think what was more heartbreaking was the public and the people in the awakened community, who were not approaching me in the right manner. And that’s that made it hard for me on my journey at a certain point of which I, you know, overcome. And I know how to deal with the public better now. Because back then I was so you might say non human, I was so different. And everything was quite intense for me. And I, people saw me and they were like, Oh, she’s definitely different. And it kind of, I feel like maybe made some of them afraid, or they could understand things. And they didn’t approach with questions and kindness. Rather, they approached with being quite harsh. That’s what really I had a hard time in my journey. And at one point, you know, I just took a timeout, and Christ and Jesus appeared to me, sorry, Buddha appeared to me. And Christ Buddha said to me, now, you know, how we felt, we were just trying to help out humanity. And they Christ was like, they killed me, because they didn’t know how to approach me, they didn’t know how to understand me. And even though I just wanted to help them, they did this to me. And now you understand this. And now you understand that you’re on a planet, where even though they think they’re very bad, they’re quite primitive in knowing about the divine and about energy, and a lot of other things. And because you’re bringing this information, is that’s really triggering them, and that it’s bringing up a lot of things in them. And it’s bringing up their fear of anything that’s different. So I and I got to feel the emotions of Buddha and Christ and how heartbreaking it was for them just to want to help the world and have experienced that. And they did provide support for me, they were like, you know, this is your journey. No, we experienced this. And we knew it was gonna happen, but we’re here for you.

Unknown Speaker 59:21
It was beautiful.

Brandon Handley 59:23
I think that’s that’s huge. Right? I think, first of all, your capability, I guess, and our willingness to view, your abuse in that light. And I think that, you know, I caught briefly, you know, maybe that’s part of how you were able to heal yourself was by being able to see yourself in that way. And kind of, you know, how can you How can you take your what seems like this really awful thing from your past and harness that as your power, right? Or at least bring it into yourself and accept That, you know, plays something good for you and who you are today. Right? So I think that, you know, I think that’s a really cool way to take a look at it. And also, to your point, again, you know, of coming from the space and trying to have a conversation with somebody who doesn’t understand it right. There, the questions can be awkward. So the questions would be like, well, what, uh, you know, so, the question is, can be awkward, so I can understand to like, you know, the desire to have somebody ask you questions that in kindness, right, versus, you know, kind of, I don’t know about like, I wouldn’t say mean spirited, but like, again, if somebody doesn’t understand, then we come from a world, kind of where you poke fun at it until, like, you know, you understand it, right? Or something like that. But, uh, again, I just wanna say thanks for sharing, you know, all who you are, in again, this kind of short timeframe. Today here on spiritual dope, and where can people go find you?

Sarah R Adams 1:01:12
Thank you, I really enjoyed this. And, um, so they can find me, WW. Sarah are adams.com and that’s with an H, of course, and I am doing a lot of great projects. I just opened the retreat center here, Sedona, Arizona, I knit a store, I coach people you know, on how to heal, how to access the dimensions how to speak to ETS, and I’m doing the wealth and conference here this summer so they can find out more about that. They’re

Brandon Handley 1:01:42
also about the conference

Sarah R Adams 1:01:43
is you know, it’s an E t conference, and it’s gonna have a lot of my Gaia friends there that do work on Gaia. So we’re gonna have a great time. I am excited about this. And I just say wanted, you know, they contacted me, they said, we know that you are in contact with ETS, we know that ETS have a lot of messages for the planet of how to heal the planet. Can you just come and channel that for us and speak about that? And I? Yeah, I’m more than happy to go do that.

Brandon Handley 1:02:13
Why would you say no? Now very, very, very cool. Again, thanks for being on. It’s a lot of fun.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:19
Thank you.

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And check out his podcast here: Your Essential Nature Podcast

Insights & Takeaways:

  • Brandon’s Intro: “I’m on with Dr. Ben Chambers and it’s his life purpose to bring people into their optimal state of health and wellness.”
  • 2:03 Dr. Ben’s message is about “Tapping into what you are, as opposed to what other people perceive you as… We wear many different masks in life, many different personas.”
    • This relates directly to the unconscious personas and archetypes that Carl Jung discussed. It begs the question: Who am I really, behind these masks? Who am I truly when I am not portraying a persona?
    • Dr. Ben indicates that the masks/personas are not our real identities, “not really who you are at your deepest level.”
      • Dr. Ben believes that when we step away from these personas and into the present moment which is “already perfect. There’s nothing to fix, there’s nothing to perfect upon… you actually get to experience the perfection of simply being.”
  • 3:58 Dr. Ben refers to a Shakespearean quote from Hamlet which he loves: “There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.”
    • Dr Ben speaks of a patient who left a note in his office one day which stated simply “Love is.” This also reminds him of a friend that has recently passed who once said, “We are beings of Love and Light.
      • Dr. Ben says that when we don’t receive love and light that it creates pain within us that we store as trauma and emotion. He says, “The only thing that can unlock the trauma and emotion we’re carrying is going back to love.”
  • 7:25 Dr. Ben discusses the semantics of whatever individuals call their path or journey
    • I’m not here to define that for you… whether you call it consciousness, or you call it spirit, whether you call it soul, whether you call it God, whether you call it Divine Universe, it doesn’t matter. We are all on a spiritual path and everything we do is energy. You know, on a quantum level, we’re vibrating packets of light.”
  • 19:19 Responding to Brandon’s questions about what it was like when Dr. Ben began to integrate energy work holistically into his practice with patients, Dr. Ben responds:
    • “This gets into like, fulfilling archetypal roles.” He goes on to explain how the word “Doctor” is derived from a word meaning “to teach.” Where doctors in his field of Chiropractics typically see around 100 people a day he isn’t called to spend a mere few minutes with each person and send them off. He might see closer to around 20 patients per day instead. For him it isn’t about the cash cow of having these patients return again and again as is typical with much of modern healthcare. It is about teaching them to heal and stay healed holistically.
      • “…it’s the outcome that you get, you get tired of trying to sell people a system that you in your heart believe is not complete… as a chiropractor, you can get into the fear model: ‘I got to keep this person sick so that they can continue coming in to see me. Our whole medical system is predicated on the idea of disease care, rather than healthcare… as soon as you cure them you have lost a patient. So with me, I’m happy to lose patients. I’m happy for them not to come in, because there are a lot of sick people in the world… Everyone I get to work on, I get to teach, right?”

Spiritual Dope Eureka Moments!

  • 27:30 “You can’t get anywhere by being inauthentic and you can’t get anywhere by just following a map of what someone else did or being the same as a guy across the street.”
  • 28:15 & 28:53 “One of my favorite things to do, it’s called an ‘open secret.’ Do you ever see the halos over a saint’s head? Like the golden light around Christ or around Buddha? That’s an open secret… the halo was not a fancy hat, it was an opening of the Crown Chakra. So the trick is, and this is one of my favorite things to do… I focus on my heart and I say the words ‘Thank you.” That opens the Heart Chakra. So focus on your heart. You can tap it if you want to as well, and just think of the words ‘Thank you.’ Then you focus on your crown, say ‘Thank you’ and then focus inside your head and say ‘Thank you.’ What you’ll feel is a tingling along the top of your head…”
    • “If you pay attention to the center of your head, you’ll actually feel your pineal gland. The fastest way to be able to reach your spiritual side is gratitude. So when you say thank you with your heart, it opens up your heart. When you say thank you with your crown, it opens up your crown. Have you ever seen the lotus flower before? The lotus flower is a depiction of the crown chakra opening, right and enlightenment, right? So heart opens, thank you. Crown opens, thank you, and then that golden light that you see within those religious images, it happens to you.”

49:30 “When you’re playing a role, rather than being who you really are, you’ll never feel whole and complete. And you’ll always look for something outside of yourself to fix it, or you’ll blame someone outside or something outside of yourself for why things are the way they are.”

Transcript below machine generated

Brandon Handley 0:00
4321 Hey, there’s spiritual dope. This is Brandon Handley and I am on with Dr. Ben chambers and it’s his life purpose to bring people into their optimal state of health and wellness chicken with illness in his early 20s. He found he was outside found hope outside of conventional medicine. At the age of 22. He was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, which relegated him to a life spent at home, unable to work or attend school. While he was seeking medical treatment by some of the area’s experts, he was told to, quote unquote, join a support group and learn to live with this chronic illness. He could not accept this dismissal sentence. Through changes in exercise, diet, lifestyle and regular chiropractic visits, he was able to overcome insurmountable fatigue, recurrent illness and pain, and he began to rebuild his life. This journey defined his passion for health and propelled him into the field of chiropractic and functional medicine, graduating from Cleveland chiropractic in 2009. And he wants you to know that health and living pain free is within reach for all of us. However, achieving true health can be a mystery with the flood of information and Miss information present in our chiropractic energy, healer, speaker and pass it misinformation present and that he is also a chiropractor, energy healer, speaker and he is passionate about helping people to connect with deeper aspects of their being. Dr. Ben, thanks for being here today. How are you?

Dr Ben Chambers 1:29
It’s an honor and a pleasure to be here. Thank you. Yeah, man, I’m doing great doing great.

Brandon Handley 1:34
Yeah, loving life, loving life. So I love to start these off with the idea that we are conduits for creative energy source energy. And that you and I, while we’re having a great conversation, somebody else is out there that’s listening to this podcast. And there’s a message coming through you. For them today. What is that message?

Dr Ben Chambers 2:00
Well, the message would be

Dr Ben Chambers 2:03
tapping into tapping into what you are, as opposed to what other people perceive you as what you perceive yourself, as we wear many different masks within life. Many different personas, you know, you you we talked on the phone while back, you know, you’re a father, you’re an entrepreneur, you’re a podcaster. And these are all just like hats that you wear for a period of time. But it’s not really your true identity or your your your essential nature, like it’s not really who you are your deepest level. But getting a chance to step away and be in the present moment, in the present moments already perfect. There’s nothing to fix, there’s nothing to perfect upon. So when you step away from all these roles, and all these identities and all these ideas of perfection, you actually get to experience the perfection of simply being and when you’re in that state of being, there’s nothing else to really fix or impress upon life begins to slow down and you feel well, you feel authentic, you feel who you really are on your deepest level.

Brandon Handley 3:04
I love that feeling, you know, being something that I was I was on a podcaster this week on you know, my buddy Jeremy, who has a positive side podcasts, he was asking me kind of what it was that I was doing to get in touch with source and how what that look like to be. And I was talking about being in love, right? And that was my meditation. My meditation was about sitting with and being in love, like literally immersed in it, emanating it and just being a love being right, what else do you need to be, you know, in that moment, and you don’t need to go anywhere to find it. It’s already within you. Right? You are limitless potential of all things. And so that goes to Shakespeare’s To be or not to be. And the question is, what do you choose to be?

Dr Ben Chambers 3:58
Right? Yeah, when we choose that we choose that from moment to moment. There’s another quote from Shakespeare I like it is things are neither good nor bad, but the mind makes it so I’m a huge fan of that line

Brandon Handley 4:10
and love that line. Yeah.

Dr Ben Chambers 4:11
But But I have a patient who is in his 80s and he’s just like, he’s a giant teddy bear. He reminds me of like Winnie the Pooh or something like that. And he’s just he’s so still that he makes me feel not still myself like I’m very still but he’s like, he’s like a lake that doesn’t move. And he wrote down on a piece of paper my room one day just just in a calm state just wrote down on piece of paper and left it on my desk. He wrote love is and that’s it. He just wrote the words love is nothing more. Yeah. And and you know, the mind goes with love is what love is that and another friend of mine passed away last year. He said, We are beings made of love and light, per se. I like to add an addendum to that we’re beings made of love and light. So that’s why when If we don’t receive love and light, creates pain within us, hmm. And we store it as trauma and emotion. And the only thing that can unlock the trauma and emotion we’re carrying is going back to love. So, you know, you think about when you go to a therapist or you pay good money for someone to work on you, really what you’re paying for is care. Hmm. And then they hold the space for them to, for you to receive the love that you didn’t receive a long time ago. Hmm. And then that’s what actually transmutes the pain that we’re holding, it’s just having still moment in time where there’s no past or future. And you can take love it actually bring it liberally all throughout the body. And that’s, that’s what that’s the catalyst for healing.

Brandon Handley 5:44
I love that I love that just being able to release that pent up energy, right, that trauma, right? Because it’s kind of like deeply love within you and you’re saying like, no kind of loves the key to let that go right and or be in be in that space. And you talk about like a therapist or something like that this is somebody that’s specializes in that abilities the same way that an energy worker like yourself or coach would do right where they they excel in being able to coax a love coach and coax right that greatness out of you right? And let you realize that right now, just like you started this off with you are great, just right. Now as you are right. I was listening to Swami one of the Swamis earlier Yeah, this week, and he was talking about you are that right? You are that right? You know, Tommasi. Right? You are that not you are becoming that not you’re going to be that you are right now that, just like you were saying, so let’s rewind here and stop there for a second. Because we, you know, I’ve listened to some of your other podcasts that you’re doing. And I know that we could do this all day. What I want to share with the people that are listening with whoever’s listening today to is this, this, let’s talk about, you know, you stepped into becoming a chiropractor, and going about it also with this energy work that you do. And what I want to find out from you is, what was it like? And is it like leading from a spiritual space? Right, versus just your versus simply clinical?

Dr Ben Chambers 7:25
Yeah, and that’s, that’s an interesting, the interesting paradox of, of getting into the healing arts, or anything for that matter. Is, is I think you can you can turn the world into a binary, the binary is, people that know they’re on the spiritual path. And people who don’t know how you define that is uniquely you. And I’m not here to define that for you. But what do you call it consciousness, we call it spirit, whether you call it soul, when you call it God, when you call it divine universe, it doesn’t matter. We’re all on a spiritual path. And everything we do is energy. You know, on a quantum level, we’re vibrating packets of love, we’re vibrating packets of light on a quantum level. So when we’re in school, it is this idea of making everything clinical, somebody comes in who’s sick, and you give them a label, and they become that identity. But that also becomes a prison. As long as you’re looking at somebody as imperfect or broken, they’re going to present as imperfect and broken. So if you understand that, on their deepest level, they are the universe they’re not, as Alan Watts says, they’re not a drop of the ocean, their entire ocean in one drop. They contain within them to see to perfection. And if you sit across in them and see the perfection, it’s already within rapid healing happens. But as soon as you get overly clinical, and you go, Well, they’ve got this malady, you’re seeing them is broken, and so they present is broken. It was, um, eric erickson, the one of the pioneers of psychology, I thought it was being clever because I thought whenever I work on someone, I see them as perfect. I see them as that light. And then and then healing is very rapid, very rapid. So I thought, How clever Am I to think of this? Well, he thought of it well before me, and I’m sure Christ and I’m sure Buddha, and I’m sure others got to that Well, before I did, too. There are no unique ideas in the world. We’re mining them from the field of collective consciousness. And when you’re sitting across from somebody, if you see them in perfection, what will present is perfection. If you see them as broken, mobile present is Zin breaking, if you want to heal them, you have to effectively create an open space where they can step into their perfection. It’s like you talked about Shakespeare, you you you project the stage like for them to step on stage and shine. And then through Free Will they have the choice whether they step into that light or not.

Brandon Handley 9:34
Now, so a lot in that, that. I would love to kind of touch on one of those. One of those pieces is the idea. And I don’t have the book right here with me. There’s a book called off. Power versus force.

Dr Ben Chambers 9:50
Oh, yeah. Dr. Hawkins.

Brandon Handley 9:51
Yes, it’s good stuff. Right. So it’s kind of kind of touching on what you’re talking about there. I actually have another friend who is a therapist out in California. Talking about exactly what you’re saying here. Not only are you a practitioner and you know the physical sense of being, but when you have a mindful awareness that you aren’t necessarily healing that person, you are seeing that person as whole. Right? That that accelerates the healing, because the energy that you’re bringing to it and the vision of that person that you see, is that, is that fair? Is that kind of how I’m understanding it?

Dr Ben Chambers 10:28
Oh, right. Yeah, it’s the idea that

Dr Ben Chambers 10:32
you know, who we are is already a perfected state.

Dr Ben Chambers 10:37
Healing is, you’ve heard this before for the placebo effect before, right? placebo effective effectively is, is giving yourself the belief that you’re going to heal, and then you’re receptive to the idea of healing. I have a lot of people who will schedule and they will start to heal before they come in. So they already start the process of healing Well, before they even come into the space. Sure, they know that it’s the you know, and this is actually a common phenomenon. But, but when someone’s driving off to the hospital, or the doctor’s office, the body already begins to heal before you’ve even gotten there.

Brandon Handley 11:14
I’d like to I’d like to I love that. Right. So placebo is tends to be what around 30%? Is that? Is that right? Is was that a rough

Dr Ben Chambers 11:21
number? 35%. Somewhere there abouts? Yeah.

Brandon Handley 11:24
So that that means that these are the people that kind of have an optimist approach to it knowing feeling and knowing in some sense of the way that it whatever they’re about to interact with, is working right and will work for them. Right? It is, you know, it’s a mental game,

Unknown Speaker 11:43
right? But what we don’t talk about,

Brandon Handley 11:47
there’s the 35% of the people who believe in the placebo, what we don’t talk about are the people who have like, I think I heard dispenza saying it one day like a no CBOE, right. Like, there’s there’s got to be X amount of people that have the mental belief that it won’t work for them. Right. And those people I think are right, um, I think that they’re lost in the shuffle, right, like so. of the 30 of the 100%. You’ve got the 35% that have placebo they’ve got what do they call that? What type of what? Archie’s what type of healing? Is it? You know, that just that they can’t account for? Right that you know, so?

Dr Ben Chambers 12:28
Oh, give me a seat, right?

Brandon Handley 12:30
Yeah. Right. So they’ve got the spontaneous healing. And, you know, that you can’t point a picture to as a matter of fact, I’ve I know, of two people recently, one, whose older son just recently cleared out brain cancer at the age of like, 21. Dude, like, I mean, yeah, fucking real. Unreal, dude, like me. Right? And like he would they were going out and doing things. He was on his way to die. Yeah. And they were doing things like last minute shit, because they want to make the mess that most of their life. Yeah. cleared his fucking shit up to you. I’m so sorry. Like, I can’t I can’t I can’t be anything but excited about that. Right, right, though. So but then. So there’s the 35% of the placebo that are documented, spontaneous healing type things. Where’s the documentation of the people were like, Nah, that’s just not gonna work. Because that’s got to be X number.

Dr Ben Chambers 13:17
Right? Oh, totally. And Bruce Lipton talks about the nocebo effect

Brandon Handley 13:21
that’s separate. It’s okay. Yeah,

Dr Ben Chambers 13:23
yeah, yeah. And that’s but we’re already living it. You know, there’s only a small percentage of the population are willing to see me as a chiropractor. The irony is I’m not really a chiropractor. I’ll do for lack of better word energy healing, I’ll do nutrition, I’ll do functional medicine. I’ll do whatever the person holistic healing, holistic healing Right, right, which is ancient, this is not new Chinese medicine is 5000 plus years old. This is not a new science, right. But the person’s receptivity to it makes a difference. Yeah. And if someone you know, it’s, it’s, there’s a quote from Henry Ford, whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can’t You’re right. So people will enter into it with a closed mind. Right, we’re closed disposition and just leave them the openness to heal. We have a family friend right now, who has stomach issues and ulcers through functional medicine and through things I’ve seen within the Office, I’ve seen people time and again, he’ll you modify the diet you can use to quit rated licorice, you can use aloe vera juice, you can use slippery elm, etc, etc. And, and you can do meditation and things to lower stress. Now, if he took that integrative approach, he would likely he’ll work rapidly from his from his ulcer. But his lack of being open to this prevents them from seeing that as an opportunity or possibility. I hear this all the time. With the mention somebody having spontaneous recovery from brain cancer. I’ve had many patients who’ve recovered from cancer, through hands on healing or other modes. I’ve actually touched tumors on people before and you can feel the melting underneath your hand. Wow. But the thing is, that’s not crazy. Everything is an energy. Everything’s a frequency through. I haven’t learned Reiki that a lot of what I do is self taught or I’ve taken A few courses to kind of hone hone skills. But in Reiki, they talk about bio magnetic fields in the bio magnetic field is everything has its own oscillatory field, right? And when something falls out of rhythm, it’s almost like having a concert where you know the horns are coming in late or, or, you know, the flutes or the clarinets are not playing the same song as the rest of the rest of the orchestra. If you can throw it through bringing frequency or bringing energy or bringing bringing integration back into the body, get them all into concert, then the body can fall back into rhythm and healing can happen. It’s it’s got What is his name?

Dr Ben Chambers 15:37
Oh, so he’s got

Dr Ben Chambers 15:40
he’s one of the talking heads with an alternative health but he had a video where he Gregg Gregg Braden Gregg Braden. Yeah, he has a video where? Yeah, it’s got Yeah, it’s got a video where he’s got these these Chinese healers working on a lady and they have an ultrasound. Have you seen that before? Yeah. Got and you can see the tumor shrinking in real time. Yeah, I know, if I was skeptical, I wouldn’t believe it. But I personally witnessed that, and I’ve had so many patients who’ve witnessed the same thing.

Brandon Handley 16:10
You know, it’s, it’s the idea of, either everything’s a miracle or nothing’s a miracle.

Dr Ben Chambers 16:14
Einstein, right.

Brandon Handley 16:16
But I mean, even even, you know, this past year for me, it’s been a lot of time spent with Hinduism and Vedanta. You know, and, and the same premises, like, either everything is God or nothing is God. Right? So, same principle, either everything is or everything is not

Dr Ben Chambers 16:40
the loser? Yeah, for a second, my internet connection is not the best.

Brandon Handley 16:44
So you know what? So it’s funny that you bring up the idea of, you know, people are receptive to something or not, I mean, I mean, there are receptor cells, right. I mean, again, the biochemic, our own biochemistry mimics kind of the outside, same thing, you know, if there’s somebody that’s, you know, mentally prepared themselves not to receive, you know, there’s there’s a, I’m guessing, you know, there’s a bubbling out versus like a kind of receptor field, you know, being created totally, but they just won’t let that in.

Dr Ben Chambers 17:15
Well, you’ve heard of chakras before, right?

Brandon Handley 17:17
Yeah, not too deep on Shockers, but you know, I am familiar with them.

Dr Ben Chambers 17:20
Yeah. So So, you ever get like a pit in your stomach before? Hmm. Now, the pit in your stomach is the solar plexus chakra. Okay. And chakra can be thought of as like Windows, right? So imagine, imagine, each chakra was a room to a part of your body. Okay. And you didn’t open up the windows, so the air became stagnant. Hmm. You know, or otherwise, when people close off their chakra or their energy body, it’s not allowing certain things in. And it’s not allowing a flow of energy within those systems. I had chronic fatigue for a long time. And so my stomach always felt tight or knotted up. And as I’ve gotten, as I’ve, as I’ve healed over the years, and as I’ve actually improved my energy, my stomach, my solar plexus, my body’s very open, I feel very loose and very, very open and free. Why bring that up is when people are closed, their mid back or their chest will tighten, or parts of their body will tighten. They literally become like a rock or stone. Right? And, and I look at it like a turtle going back in it show, huh? You know, like, it just kind of closes out from the world and blocks anything else from coming in. And you can tell because when you’re inspired, you’re breathing in deeply. And when you’re not, you’re not breathing in very much at all. So when you’re in the flow rhythm of life, your body relaxes you breathe, and you you’re actually connected. And when you’re not, you’ll drink you’ll smoke, you’ll you’ll do something to like occupy your mind. So you can be somewhere else,

Brandon Handley 18:40
right? disengaged? Yeah. disengage, disengage. So, so you’re in this business. Now let’s talk about what what was it like for you? What is it like for you, you know, when you started with kind of leading holistically with the energy space? Did you start there? Or was it did you start with being a chiropractor being very doctory? Right, doctor, Dr. Ben, total doctor until least, you know, stiff, and then opening up into the space and talk about what how that changed for life for you a little bit in your practice for you.

Dr Ben Chambers 19:19
This gets into like, fulfilling archetypal roles. You know, like we have this idea of what the we have this idea of what the ideal is, hmm. So the ideal chiropractor is someone that sees 100 people a day, spends three minutes with each person, you know, cranks on their neck, pizza tarda them insane. Often they come back a week later. You know, that’s the archetypal form. But I didn’t, I didn’t like that. It wasn’t fulfilling and I never saw I’d never seen more than 20 people a day. I mean, take a chance to know them. Right? You don’t get really chance, a chance to connect with them. Right? But working physically with people. I found So I started working nutritionally, that would only take them so far, right. And then I started doing more of the hands on healing work and everything else. And you start to get a clear idea of why people hurt. But it’s about outcomes that you get, you get tired of trying to sell people, a system that you and your heart believe is not complete. And you go like a spiritual seeker, you keep on seeking until you get a clear idea of what that might be. So it’s the idea that, that, that you don’t receive healing from someone else that you are healing. And you learn how to carry that with you every day. And then hopefully, as a society, we teach each other how to be healthy and whole and balanced. Like the Buddha, the Eightfold Path of, of, of harmony, or enlightenment, is just an idea of being harmonized with everything that we do. Linda case of the patient, as a chiropractor, you can get into the fear model, I got to keep this person sick so that they can continue coming in to see me. Our whole medical system is predicated on the idea of disease care, rather than healthcare. You identify with an illness, you treat someone for the rest of their life for that illness. And, and you have a patient for life. As soon as you cure them, you’ve lost a patient. So with me, I’m happy to lose patients, I’m happy for them not to come in. Because there’s a lot of sick people in the world. They refer people that they know and I get to work with them too. But everyone I work on, I get to teach, right? And then they get to take that into their lives. And that becomes each one teach one or or the idea that what the word doctor truly means. Is teacher.

Brandon Handley 21:35
Okay, okay. Yeah, never, I never even did not know that. The doctor meant teacher. So I love that. Yeah, kind of lines back into the discipline, which is a disciple, which is like education, right to learn, right? So I love kind of, I love that thought process. The other thing I want to know you’re talking in there, you know, you’ve got these people that are walking around who think that they’re sick. And again, I’m just I’m not a doctor myself, but but like this, to me, just like these are replicator cells, right? Like, everywhere they go, like, in the body of humanity. These are replicator cells. These are people anywhere they go, they look at you, and they say, I say doctor bad. I’m sick. And and, you know, you’re like, Oh, yes, you’re sick as a replicator cell, right? And the next person that you look over to you like that person, you know, over, they’re sick, because you’re a replication of what somebody’s telling you. In essence, right? So what you’re able to do is you’re able to see them as whole and look back at them be like, no, you’re, you are whole. Right? And then, you know, you’re kind of reverse that reversing that replication back to them. Does that make sense? Right,

Dr Ben Chambers 22:40
yeah, you’re in training them to the field?

Brandon Handley 22:42
Mm hmm. Yeah, that’s another part. So that’s another. I love it. So that’s another part of the force versus power, right? Power sports. I forget the name of the book, The Dr. Atkins, right. Dr. Boyce? Yeah. Um, so when you first set people set the person’s, like, verbally told somebody, you were doing energy work on them? You know, what was that? Like? What was it like to step into that space?

Dr Ben Chambers 23:08
Well, it’s actually more of a recent endeavor, because we’re not to be fair, we’re always doing energy work.

Brandon Handley 23:15
So but when you when you like, you know, you’re like, hold up a banner and be like, right? They were doing energy work? Right, right, somebody who’s just walking into a chiropractor’s office, and, you know, you’ve got the people who are not receptive to it. Right. Totally. I mean, there’s got to be a little bit of a fear with leading with that,

Dr Ben Chambers 23:31
right. And the thing about it is, it’s, it’s, you can make something esoteric, exoteric, you can make it known to people. It’s just like, you know, if you never had a mirror, you know, and I was like, You got hair on your head, you know, and you’d be like, well, prove it to me, and I’m like, well, raise your hand up and feel it. I’ll say things to people, like, if you’ve ever had a child scrape his knee, you know, and then you hug and hold them and they feel better, or you’ve gotten a hug. And that that hug makes you feel better, right? Or, you know, you’re out in traffic and you hold your hand up like this, or you point at somebody, this is all energy, right? And it’s just understanding that emotion is energy. One of my favorite things to show people I think I have it in this drawer. Actually, this is this is good timing. Is this chart. Funny that I would have it here. This is a thermographic scan of the body.

Brandon Handley 24:22
Hmm. I love that. That’s great.

Dr Ben Chambers 24:23
Yeah. And what it shows is with with somebody who has depression, their body is blue. Hmm. You know, under the heat under the wave, when they’re angry. There’s heat rising up to their head. They’re a hothead. Right? But when they’re in a state of happiness, or love, right, their whole body is warm. Hmm. And that’s, that’s just the movement of energy within the body. That’s

Brandon Handley 24:45
energy that’s lighting up. They’re lighting up, they’re becoming enlightened. I mean, is that fair to say?

Dr Ben Chambers 24:49
Oh, no. And that’s the idea behind enlightenment. Enlightenment is a very simple term, it means that you’ve actually taken all of your trauma, and anything that does not cause you to vibrate with love and light and you’ve moved it into A state where it’s all of enlightened become an empty container to hold more light. Hmm. And you think about that, then the whole body on a scan would just be light. Right? It would be the energy because because because the the heat, or the lack of heat. What I love here, though, right is the science

Brandon Handley 25:15
is proving out what’s already been stated for many, many years, right? You’re feeling blue, there’s literally a picture and a graphic that corresponds to that. Right? Right. You are You are in loving presence, you are enlightened, there’s literally now a scientific thermal graphic that

Unknown Speaker 25:32
can show that, right. So totally, I love that.

Dr Ben Chambers 25:36
I love that. And the thing is science and religion, were unpaired because of not to get spiritual, but because of the church A long time ago, you know, Galileo was on house arrest for the last 20 years of his life, right? You know, Copernicus, Kepler and others who were challenging geo centricity, you know, that idea that the Earth was the center of the universe. Were castigated. You know, they didn’t they want to, they don’t want to put themselves out there. So there was a natural split between the church and in science, but Einstein, Newton, other great thinkers, they were mystics, right? Right. They were tapping into something when Einstein will come up with his theorems. It would be in the twilight hours of night, he was in a deep meditative state, where he was getting these visions, right. So it’s

Dr Ben Chambers 26:22
essential.

Brandon Handley 26:23
If we, if we look at if we like the idea of again, the idea of like constriction, or tightening up, right, or being ultra focus versus the idea of opening up and being receptive to other things that we simply have no idea of, right? We are we are receptive to new ideas, right? You don’t know everything? And that’s okay. Right, obviously, and then, you know, there are going to be pieces that finally just kind of fall out of the ether and click together. I mean, those are the eureka moments, right? You know, what, what was that when I forget, you know, who that was? Who said it, but you know, running through that, you know, the light has gone off, there’s an epiphany happening, wrong. And so, you stepped into this, you’re stepping into this space, what I want to kind of hammer home for some people is that, you know, has you you felt Have you felt more fulfillment, with leading from this energy space than a strictly clinical space? And has your business kind of grown in a way that you didn’t think was possible because of it?

Dr Ben Chambers 27:30
Well, it can, it gets into this idea that you’ll never, not that it’s about separating, because it’s ideally we’re all unifying, right? We’re unifying through the heart. But one you can’t get anywhere by being inauthentic. And to you can’t get anywhere by by just following a map of what someone else did. Or being the same as a guy across the street. If you feel so compelled to push things forward, push it forward. But I’m occupying space that I feel like needs to be occupied, and I feel authentic in doing so. And people. Generally speaking, people do not. They do not attack you when they can sense that what you’re saying is true to your core, right? Or when you can show them aspects of themselves that they didn’t know existed.

Brandon Handley 28:12
Right. So what’s an example of that? I’d love to hear that.

Dr Ben Chambers 28:15
Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, and maybe we can play around with this at some point. But one of my favorite things to do is it’s called an open secret. But do you ever see the halos over a saints head? Yes. And unlike the golden light around like Christ around Buddha around it, that’s an open

Brandon Handley 28:30
graphic. I mean, that’s, that’s literally part of my, that’s part of my, my logo, right? My awesome visual dope logos, right, I’ve got behind, you know, set, I’ve got a Jesus piece where he’s got the he’s holding up and he’s got a heart on his head. And that’s where the lights coming out of. And then I’ve got a Buddha where the hearts like, you know, with the lights coming out of and so the idea got, though, so.

Dr Ben Chambers 28:53
But that’s, that’s it right there. These are called Open secrets. And the halo was not a fancy hat, it was an opening of the crown chakra. So the trick is, and this is my favorite thing to do, we can do it right now if you want to. So you do and you know, and anyone listening to this right now pay attention, because you’ll feel it as well. That’s the amazing thing is whatever you’re watching, you’re getting programmed to, and you’ll feel it energetically. So what I do is I focus on my heart. And I say the word Thank you. Okay, and that opens up the heart chakra. So focus on your heart. You can tap it if you want to as well. And and just think the word. Thank you. Thank you. And then focus about a foot above your head and say the word Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,

Brandon Handley 29:35
like, rubbing my belly. And yeah, thank you.

Dr Ben Chambers 29:39
Yeah, but just focus your heart. Thank you focus on your crown, say thank you, and then focus inside of your head and say thank you. Thank you. And what you’ll feel is a tingling along the top of your head. And you’ll feel Yeah, you don’t have to tap anymore. But you’ll feel a tingling on top of your head. Right? And if you pay attention to the center of your head, you’ll actually feel your pineal gland. And the fastest way to be able to reach a spiritual side is gratitude. So when you say thank you with your heart, it opens up your heart when you say thank you for your crown, it opens up your credit ever seen the lotus flower before the lotus flower is a depiction of the crown chakra opening, right and enlightenment, right? So heart opens, thank you. Crown opens, thank you, and then that that golden light that you see within those religious images, it happens to you. Right? You know, I’m not saying it happens the same degree as Christ or Buddha. But you actually tap into your consciousness, your soul, your essence, we have

Brandon Handley 30:36
to think though, everybody has to know that they didn’t start that way on day one. Right? I mean, it didn’t start like that that way. On day one, this is, you know, you’re in a medical and a spiritual and a life practice. Versus right, nobody calls this a life done or a meditation done, right? meditation, perfection, it’s always a practice of always, you know, not not necessarily getting better at it, simply practicing it, right. I mean, it’s even, um, you know, when So, my idea or thought process about the lotus flower is also the very idea that it is and it is naturally unfolding, right? It’s naturally blossoming. You know, these are these are naturally unfolding essences of yourself that kind of, if you think about the heart, mind connection, right? Like you just did there right connecting both of those, but also kind of that welling energy without that just simply unfolds. Right? Totally blossoms.

Dr Ben Chambers 31:42
Yeah. Well into your point. It is it is a process, you can reach spontaneously as spontaneous enlightenment. That’s what the Buddha was said to have done under the under the forget what kind of a tree Bodhi tree Yeah, yeah, Bodhi tree. But within within the chakra theory in this is more Hindu belief. And by the way, I’m not I’m not any particular religion, I just I listen to truth, and I take it in, but they talk about like, Governor’s like, almost like on a car. Right? And how, as you develop spiritually, certain centers open up more and more and more. So for some people, the wide open for other people, it’s a gradual unfolding, right. And it develops, and then they’re able to tap in with with greater and greater ease. Now, I love it. I love it. So um,

Brandon Handley 32:36
yeah, dude. I mean, so do you feel now kind of more in alignment with all that you’re doing? And kind of like this, this greater universe is opening up for you. experience.

Dr Ben Chambers 32:51
And you’re, where you’re at? Right?

Dr Ben Chambers 32:55
Right. It’s about trust. And it’s about authenticity. And so if you’re, you think about it this way, the universe is a mirror. And if you make faces in front of the mirror, it makes faces back at you, right? You know, if you yell, someone was likely gonna yell at you. But if you constantly project authenticity, what comes back is authenticity. So whenever you feel your core, you have to express if that’s your truth, and then meeting into trust, like you’ve heard of yin and yang before, right? You know, Yin would be the the flowing of the river, and Yang would be moving away from the branches that are in the river, so you don’t get hit. Right. And there’s a balance between the two, there’s a time for action and time for inaction. Right. And if you’re floating down the river, then the river is already doing all the work for you. Right, right. Yeah. But you have to be discerning enough to know when it’s time to act. Yeah. And so when you’re in a state of flow, or rhythm, in a state of harmony, and you’re grounded, you don’t really have to use a lot of energy or effort you just kind of float through life and everything comes to you because you become the attractor field for what it is you’re trying to bring in. And the more you that you are, the more you get back exactly what it is you want

Brandon Handley 34:14
with like the attractor field and with the action Do you feel like there’s some type of does action um, amplify the attractor field right does like you know, so yeah, this is kind of like a you know, Dr. Ben thinks it and he does it the universe revise right? You think it you say universe knows now that this is your accordance that you think it say do it universes like Well, shit, I better open up the way because every time you know, Dr. Ben says he thinks that he does it. This is a pattern. You know, again, does do the actions amplify this kind of attractor field?

Dr Ben Chambers 34:54
Oh, most definitely. Most definitely. It’s it’s the idea that was Energy you’re putting out there is what you’re amplifying. And and how you say it. Like there’s there’s a guy who’s he does this relationship series, I’m gonna bleep myself a little bit, but it’s life is either fps or F No. Right. And, and with that, it’s like, if you don’t feel that with anything you’re doing, then don’t do it is this point? Yeah, you know, bring 100% of yourself into whatever you’re doing, and it’ll come back. 100%. But people, you know, we talked about the nocebo effect before, people will think the thoughts that they don’t want, thus attracting them. Because what they’re saying like, let’s say for instance, you come into my office and you want health, right? You know, what you might be saying is I’m sick, right? I’m sick, I’m sick. I’m sick. Right? And that’s what I did for a long time. When I was sick, I would, I would, I would meet you. And I’d say, you know, Brandon, I’m on chronic fatigue syndrome. Sherry, nice to meet you. Alright. But now I think I’m healthy. And I feel it to my core. And what reflects back is health. But yeah, your thoughts and your actions are creating. And if you think about God in this way, I’m not I’m not saying like, you have to subscribe to this. But if the kingdom of heaven lies within, then it means God is interwoven into everything. Yeah, you guys everything or nothing. Right? God is everything. Right? So from that perspective, every thought you have in every word you say is a prayer. And God is interwoven into all things. So you are basically speaking to the field all the time. Now working with working with patients is fascinating. As soon as I think something, I feel it inside their body. If I think the thought for to clear a release it releases. That’s how fast the field responds. Right. But we are swimming in we are swimming in the ocean of God, one of our receptionist who’s an energy worker known, right? She said, she’s watching a documentary on sharks. And she realized that the shark wasn’t swimming in the ocean. But the ocean was swimming the shark.

Brandon Handley 36:52
That’s cute. Yeah, I mean, right. It’s I mean, the ocean is what’s moving the shark around. Right. Exactly. And creating the space for it and and allowing and allowing for, you know, you mentioned the field. You know, For the uninitiated, I don’t know who’s made it that far through this podcast, it wouldn’t be the uninitiated, but

Unknown Speaker 37:10
Sure. uninitiated, what do you mean by the field?

Dr Ben Chambers 37:14
Right? Well, let’s say that.

Dr Ben Chambers 37:18
Let’s say that we’re all swimming in the ocean, right? If I were to take my arm and I was to push water, he would create a wave, right? And that wave might create a splash that affects you in some way. Or maybe a child is in the pool and peas or something like that. It’s warmer in one area. Sure. kind of disgusting. But eventually it spreads out everywhere, right? So if you think of like the world as as basically swimming in an ocean of water, and that what you’re doing is creating a wave. And that wave is rippling out further and further. That is the field. Okay? We don’t think of our thoughts as something that carry out but our thoughts are actually matter that take up space and actually have an energy of their own. Right. So when you’re having a thought, or you’re thinking something, you’re actually like, splashing a wave into the ocean, right? You know, are you making a little ripple? Are you making a tide? Are you splashing a wave? That’s going to bring back good things to you? Are you going splashing a wave, it’s actually going to cause you to drown?

Brandon Handley 38:15
Well, this is so this is on, and I love it. Right? So thank you, right? And this is, to me, this is where I’d love your thought process on it. This is where emotion and mind Connect. Right? This is where the heart mind connection comes from. This is where your emotion amplifies your thoughts, right? You can have a thought of gratitude you were talking about earlier, right? It’s one thing to mentally think I’m grateful for this. I’m grateful for that snippety Snap, snap snap, versus feeling it right and emanating it. And as we think about that feeling of emanation. I mean, you’ve talked a lot about the attractor field, you’ve talked about, you know, the crown chakra, we’ve talked about energy talked about being the central point, I think about two things, I think about the tourist field, like being being you know, you’re a core of the tourist. Right? You’re like you’re you’re that middle of the vortex there. And then also think about, um, we are electromagnetic fields, we are no different then Planet Earth, where if you look out there, right there, okay, that’s a tourist field. Again, you’ve got energy fields, you’ve got the North Pole, which we all know if you play with magnets, that you know, the north and south, you know, they attract each other, but that’s the same field kind of going out there it emanates. And it keeps circulating, right, I mean, that that energy field keeps moving. So, again, you know, your emotions, amplify your thoughts, without connecting your heart and mind which was a Buddhist thing that I got, you know, talking about Alan Watts earlier, when he first talked about the heart mind that the Buddhism talks about, I lost my mind as I What is it? I had to I had to track it down. Right. And it was Gregg Braden who brought it home for me and his Thomas, you know, move mountains. thing, right? So Gregg Braden has got one on that, but what what are your thoughts on that? And how do you feel like you came to that space? If you did at all?

Dr Ben Chambers 40:12
Yeah. So we’re talking about like emotions in the attractor field and, and, and the spin how it actually plays with the universe itself?

Brandon Handley 40:20
Well, so Connect. So, um, we talked about emotional mastery, right? That’s the idea that, you know, you either, you know, depends on your where you come from on this too, but like, you know, your thoughts and your emotions working in unison, right to totally create that yield, right? Because your emotions are what? And electromagnetic field? Is that true or fine?

Dr Ben Chambers 40:45
No, no, it’s true. It’s it’s creating, yeah, it’s creating a wave, it has its own frequency. What I’d like to add to anyone listening, because this is an important point, too, is if you’re feeling anger, feeling anger, if you’re feeling sadness, feel sadness. You can watch it, or feel where it’s located inside of your body. Like, as soon as you have a thought, I’d like to say as soon as you have a thought. It’s only happening because of the energy you’re holding inside of yourself, or the trauma, right? If you can go to where you’re holding it inside of yourself, maybe you feel heaviness within your chest, maybe you feel a tightness along your stomach, maybe you’re having a hard time breathing. But if you just feel it, the thought will go away, because that was the fuel behind the thought. So why I want to delineate that is because people think that just thinking positive thoughts is the answer. But if you have to sneeze, sneeze, if you have to burp, burp, right, don’t it’s no less spiritual, for getting angry or for being sad, right. And in fact, as your as your light as you’re leveling up, getting more conscious and becoming more aware and feeling more connected, more things are going to come to the surface. Because you think about it, like all the things you haven’t healed from right, are looking for an opportunity to find the healing once you’re in a place to do so. It’s all going to rise up. When you say becoming more conscious. You know, I believe what you’re saying is of your anger, your emotions, right, and catching that and feeling it is that what you’re saying? it’s twofold. It’s it’s the path of enlightenment. So it’s a path of feeling more connection to God, divine universe source, and your spirit, your consciousness, your energy field, whatever you want to call that. As you become more aware of these of the whole apparatus, right? You feel more stillness, you feel more connection, you feel more love around you, you see your connection to all things around you, as opposed to being separate from the world. You feel lighter, because you’re not carrying as much heaviness It was like weighing you down. For sure. That kind of conscious, but then also being conscious of what you’re feeling inside. A lot of us live inside of our head, and we’re not feeling all the things we’ve been holding on to for most of our life. Right? And you think about it, like how much have you stored in your body over the course of however many years you’re alive a lifetime, a lifetime, right? And, and it all wants one thing at all wants to have love understanding compassion, forgiveness, a god day, etc. And once that in order to be free, people think that they can just, you know, get rid of this for me. You have to love it into integration, not push it away from you.

Brandon Handley 43:12
That’s the idea of Shadow Work. Right?

Dr Ben Chambers 43:14
Shadow Work. Exactly. Yeah, the Shadow Work is the shadow.

Dr Ben Chambers 43:21
What What is it? It’s it’s recognizing, it’s recognizing that just because the clouds are out that the sun is still there. Mm hmm. So you may have darkness or shadow or anger or something inside of you. It doesn’t make you any less spiritual.

Dr Ben Chambers 43:47
But recognize it, hear it, listen to it, and it will integrate. There’s a Japanese artwork called kansui. And consumers where they break pottery, and then they meld it with gold to fix it, but the idea is, you’re already whole you’re already complete. The fact that you’ve forgotten that is

Unknown Speaker 44:22
I think I’m getting a bit of a lag.

Brandon Handley 44:23
Yeah, we got a little bit of lag. I love kansui I love the idea of you’re already hold that you’re presenting another way that I somebody shared it with me not too long ago as well. It’s just, you know, it takes some it’s hard to it’s hard to do my incorrect in that like And so, in being able to connect pottery with gold. There’s an artistry to it, right? Is that is that true or false? Oh yeah, most definitely. And then It’s it’s almost as that is almost as though that piece looks better because of what has been done the broken pieces being put back together with those with that goal. Right with. Yeah. So it’s almost it’s almost better off that that has happened. So I love I love that, um,

Dr Ben Chambers 45:23
I know gold makes everything better. Right?

Brandon Handley 45:27
Gold makes everything better,

Dr Ben Chambers 45:28
but some gold on it, it’ll immediately make it. It’s like Jim gaffigan said, if you want to make anything better add bacon. Right, right. But the others also pretty nice.

Brandon Handley 45:36
Yeah, it doesn’t hurt it. You know, I think one of the other things too, when we talk about talk about being bodies of light. I just recently saw just kind of how we literally are made from stars. Right, everything that we are, right. So you know how, you know, I don’t know, play with it a little bit, kick that around for something.

Unknown Speaker 46:01
What what do you what are your thoughts on that?

Dr Ben Chambers 46:04
Well, Carl Sagan said, we’re all made of stars. Hmm. So so to the atheist when I was an atheist for a while, I would say it’s we’re all one. So whether we’re all one and unified from the Big Bang, or while one unified from stars, the universe, but the universe translates. And you may already know this, it universe means one song, universe, one song. So we’re all one, whether you call it an old man in the sky, whether you call it the you know, the the singularity or the Big Bang, where we all become quantumly entangled, we’re all one. And so being all made from stars just means that we all come from the same cosmic soup. And a real abstraction, and this is going to be probably over a few people’s heads is if we’re all one, then as you climb the ladder, higher and higher, you dance with God. You dance with with what we are on our highest level, right? With that, and you know, you would say a Christ figure or Buddha figure merged.

Brandon Handley 47:10
I love it. And then there’s a there’s the idea that ourselves, you know, kind of regenerate right. I also recently saw how, just what you’re saying there, right, Christ and Buddhist merging, but the cells that were in Christ and Buddha, if they were ever really true people, there’s thousands of theirselves in your in you right now, as we speak. Oh, right. I mean, quite literally, yourselves. Right? Like, I mean, so quite literally, right now. You know, there are pieces of Jesus and Buddha in all of us.

Dr Ben Chambers 47:49
Right? Well, in that goes back to the kingdom of heaven lies within. You know, it’s this idea that heaven and hell are our actual states outside of us. But their dimensional states that we exist in all the time, and more physical you become the more earthly that is, the more hell you’re gonna experience. If you become q astral, you’ll become unrelatable to anybody. Yeah, but but the idea is, is that there is a cosmic seed that lies within all of us. And I actually believe as many people do that the idea of the Second Coming is really Christ consciousness, or universal consciousness and all of us. Right, right.

Brandon Handley 48:28
I mean, I mean, right? I mean, let’s do it. Right? I mean, what? Why not? Yeah. So listen, the idea, again, I think for this is for this podcasts is to have people like yourself who are leading from this space, and doing it with intention, doing it with purpose, and overcoming the fear of not, you know, not being your authentic self, like we kind of talked about before, what would you know, so let’s say somebody is on the precipice of taking that, you know, Neo leap, right, or whatever, you know, into themselves. And finally, you know, connecting with God connecting with source and leading with that, what would you tell somebody who’s been running a traditional business? What would be some guidance for them?

Dr Ben Chambers 49:26
Well, it gets back into that idea before that.

Dr Ben Chambers 49:30
That what you are is what you attract. So if you are scarcity, and if you’re fear, you’re going to attract more of it. So if you begin to lean into, like, for me I was when I was atheist, I started reading the Tao de Ching, or Taoism, and Taoism didn’t promise heaven or hell. All it did was talk about how we fall into a universal flow. And now all things are in rhythm together. You know, business entrepreneurs talk about flow states. It’s the idea that that as long as you’re being anything but authentic, as long as you’re living a life that isn’t really who you are, you’re going to suffer. And when you’re playing a role, rather than being who you really are, you’ll never feel whole and complete. And you’ll always look for something outside of yourself to fix it, or you’ll blame someone outside or something outside of yourself for why things are the way they are. So think about it. The life of the party is only the life of the party, because they create such a powerful attractor field that everyone wants to be around them, right. It’s like how the sun collapses spacetime. And planets begin to orbit, right? So if you become that if you become the most authentic form of who you are, you’re always rewarded. The universe always rewards authenticity. And people can tell when you’re being fake and dishonest. So whatever your song is, I like to say, this is like, Kahlil Gibran, the prophet. He said, We’re like instruments of God, you know, and God’s winds blow through us and we play a beautiful melody. But your song may be different than my song. And your instrument may be different than mine. And we may make beautiful music, but may we may sound different.

Brandon Handley 51:08
Hundred percent, right? Yeah, that’s how you have harmony. Right? That’s, that’s where the symphony comes into play. Right? That’s where all these you know, courses come into play. It’s to hear one note over and over and over. While it may be beautiful on its own, if it’s, you know, accompanied in a true harmonic way, on a true harmonizing way. And symphonic it’s, it’s beautiful. Right. And, and so I feel like that’s what you’re saying.

Dr Ben Chambers 51:43
Oh, totally. And that’s what makes up the spectrum. Like,

Dr Ben Chambers 51:47
another way I like to look at it as if God the universe is light. Do you ever, ever see a light play through a prism? And it makes a rainbow? Hundred percent? Yeah, we are the rainbow. And God, the universe is the light. Hmm. So when God the universe plays into the spectrum of this physical realm, we get all these different colors. And that’s what we see as differentiation. That’s what we see a separation. That’s what we hear is different, different tunes in different notes. But it’s really just that one light being broken up into different pieces. Right. And when we when we recognize that all those pieces joining together, make that one light, we have an appreciation for the diversity that’s out there.

Brandon Handley 52:31
I love that, you know, celebrate each other’s diversity, right? Yeah, celebrate, celebrate each other’s differences, because that’s what makes the whole?

Dr Ben Chambers 52:41
Well, and it’s interesting, because for someone to have a position, there has to be an opposition. So for you to have a viewpoint or a belief, there has to be something that opposes it more often than not, you know, when it comes to love, there’s nothing that opposes love. Hmm, I look at what

Brandon Handley 52:54
it is, is 100%. Right. All the way back to beginning where you got the client that right side on the paper, right? Love is. So

Dr Ben Chambers 53:04
yeah, in fact, in fact, it’s funny, because I have that here, too.

Brandon Handley 53:11
That’s awesome. Right? That’s, that’s just great. It’s got a client. And it’s great to be able to have clients that are willing to leave that behind for you. How great is that? as we as we kind of wind down here. What you know, I love the idea of spiritual dope, right? The idea kind of comes from taking those hits of spirituality and getting your life highs, right, your spirituality highs versus Look, I you know, I listened to your podcast with with your quartet. Right, and I enjoy it a lot. And I remember hearing a couple of them talking about like raves and the rave scene. Right. And that was something for me back in the day running around, you know, just taking everything that would like, you know, whatever, whatever I could ingest. And I’m lucky to admit it, made it out made it out there on skates, but Yeah, me too. To be able to feel even better than that. Through this connection with source or whatever you want to call it. Um, is that’s my idea of kind of a spiritual ness, my spiritual dope, right? That’s it. Yeah. What is the what is what is something that you do? That gives you that feeling?

Dr Ben Chambers 54:29
Whether there’s aspects of meditation where you reach high levels, right, and and to talk about the spiritual dope. in some circles, they say that drugs actually open up those centers temporarily. They force them open, but you don’t know how to keep them open or keep them connected. That’s one thing I like to do is like to commune with nature. I love doing work with people. I love. I love working in the healing arts. But when I meditate, I’ll meditate with my heart and my crown and I’ll feel in Hinduism Nicola. Ananda, which means divine bliss. And I’ll feel this immense divine bliss coming through. And what I realized is that divine bliss is there for me and for everyone else. Mm hmm. When you realize that at the door knocking, wanting to come in is this love that is like drinking from a firehose, hmm, then you don’t have to seek anywhere else. You don’t have to seek outside of yourself with relationships or anything else, you’ll create relationships, but they’ll be relationships that are healthy and whole, and mutual. But when you make that connection, like you’re saying, with the spiritual dope, it is such a sublime feeling that requires nothing more than connecting in with what we already are. That it’s, it’s like, I believe that the Buddha in Christ took us to the sunset, and then man tried to describe it. But when you actually experience the sunset for yourself, it’s sublime.

Brandon Handley 55:50
Right now, that’s perfect. That’s perfect. And, you know, I alluded to Alan Watts a lot simply because, um, he was there when I came into this space, right? Like, this is kind of how my entry into the into the space was through a ton of Alan Watts.

Dr Ben Chambers 56:05
I love Alan Watts.

Brandon Handley 56:06
Yeah. But the idea is that words are clumsy and can never truly capture the the totality of the experience that you just express. Right? You said sublime. But you know, what is that? You know? So, you know, if you haven’t experienced that before, I know that I’ve mentioned it before that it’s a lot like getting into that flow state. Right. But even greater, right, and kind of like a nicer, nicer way of being. So. Thank you for that. I really appreciate it. And then what you know, look, again, I feel like you and I could probably do this for like a week straight, easily. easily. What, where should I send people to connect with you? And you know, who would be your ideal client as somebody who’s reached out to you from, you know, across the pond, right? digitally?

Dr Ben Chambers 56:59
Yeah. So I do distance sessions with people. And what I do is, I believe everyone’s empathic, right, but we’ve forgotten how to feel inside. So like, when I’m talking to somebody, I can feel what’s going on inside their body. And I’ll do distance Healing Sessions where I’m just having them think thoughts, or going back to an emotion or feeling, I’ll show them where it’s located inside their body. And then I’ll help them to move it. And it only takes a second. But when you can teach people that they can move, what they’re holding inside of themselves very rapidly. My website is is access CW so x is CW calm. And we’re on we’re on Facebook, as well as access chiropractic. And we’re in Lee’s Summit, Missouri. I have a podcast, which is called your essential nature. And the essential nature podcast is on Facebook. But the idea behind that is is it’s like it’s like a cousin of of your podcast where spiritual dope where we’re just having conversations from our perspective, because like we were saying before, we didn’t get here overnight, we’ve had to take each individual step to get there. There’s a song from from Atlas sound and Leticia Sadie a. It’s about 10 years old now. But one of the lines within it is I thought saints were born saints. But then I realized I grew into it. You know, I one of my one of my boys is St. Francis, I just love him because he would he would pray to Him to sermonize with the animals. And when I do energy work, that the whole back area of my office will fill with birds, we had 40 doves come the other day, nature knows what’s up. But the idea is we are on this this path is trajectory. And if we’re patient with ourselves eventually we reach really, really amazing heights of spirituality and connection. But yeah, that’s what that’s what our podcasts and that’s what my life is about.

Brandon Handley 58:49
So who should reach out to

Dr Ben Chambers 58:53
everyone?

Dr Ben Chambers 58:55
No, no it people that are people that are wanting to go deeper people that are wanting to know deeper aspects of themselves. People are ready to really look at their their pain discomforts, things they’ve been holding inside of themselves. Not everyone wants to do that. You know, some people aren’t ready to do that. But people who are ready to go deeper and have a deeper understanding of what’s going on inside their, their internal world and then also how to learn how to connect on a deeper mystical or spiritual level. And they could take that into whatever belief system they have. It’s not it’s not specific to a particular religion. What you find is Christian mysticism, Jewish mysticism, Hindu Hindu, mysticism boot is etc. It’s all the same teaching. It’s just different. Different teachers. They’re all saying the same thing.

Brandon Handley 59:44
Yeah, hundred percent. Yeah, there’s a guy Edwin Bryan, who just tell he says, you know, look, you can you can study all of them in the end, just you’re gonna have to you got to pick one up and just go with it. Yeah, right. So just

Dr Ben Chambers 59:58
get a picture of like Jesus in the swimming Dude like he’s my pinup for this month.

Brandon Handley 1:00:01
That’s it. That’s it. I want to go with it. So thank you, Dr. Ben, so much for coming on today. I enjoyed this conversation and thanks for sharing out with people, different ways that they can kind of step into their greatness and what it’s like to be able to lead a business from this space and the authenticity the way that you do it. So thank you.

Dr Ben Chambers 1:00:23
Yeah, it’s been a pleasure. I really enjoyed it and Blessings to you.

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